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A coworker wants to use his 22-250 to hunt whitetail this fall. Only a few places where one can get a 100yd shot.....most around 25 - 40 yds. I would prefer to find a factory load for him as it would save me buying reloading dies for the 22-250. Anyone know of a factory load with a bullet constructed for use on whitetail? Only thing I've noticed is Federals 55g TBBC. Anyone have experience with this bullet? Would love to find a factory load that shot the 60g Partition but I don't believe anyone offers that option. Thanks, HogWild | ||
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You should get ALOT of opinion on this topic - that is shooting whitetails with a .22 caliber rifle. I have to admit that I am one who has shot many with a 22-250. However, I hunt the Texas hill country and many of our deer might be 100 lbs soaking wet! I've never lost one that I hit. Before I started reloading, I used factory 55g PSP in Remington and Federal brands with great success. My .02 worth. I'm sure you'll get more input. Good luck Hollywood | |||
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Your probably right. Before anyone shifts the topic to "should a 22-250 be used on whitetail" please remember this is not my choice. My coworker made this choice and I want to help him select the best bullet avaliable. HogWild | |||
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HogWild I have a friend who used a 22/250 quite a bit for deer. He used Nosler Solid base bullets [50gr. or 55gr.] with perfect results. The 55gr. Trophy Bonded Bearclaw should be an even better bullet for deer. It would be hard to pick a better bullet for the 22/250 for deer. I have killed a few deer with a 223. All with behind the shoulder shots. They went down as if struck by lightening. Just stay away from extreme angle shots and your friend will be ok. | |||
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Yeah HogWild, Don your flack jacket for that topic. We are blessed with a Lot of aRmchair experts on here, who have more experience reading about it, than you will ever have experiencing it in real life. This is their stage for the old Helen Ready song " I am Woman, Watch Me Roar!" Beyond that, in any 22 caliber cartridge above 223, the Best Economy bullet is the Speer 70 SP, followed by the 63 grain Sierra SMP. I have used the Speer, and use it exclusively in the 22/250 and the 223 for deer. I have observed excellent results with the 63 grain Sierra from others. This is contrary to what you are going to "read". Anyone of the Barnes X bullets in the 22 caliber line up are good. I have taken a couple of deer with the 53 grain Blue coated X Bullet. All went straight down! No need to follow a blood trail. Shot placement is the key with a 22 caliber, especially 22 caliber. However with a 22 caliber it is the easiest for the average shooter. Several times I have seen kids that have taken deer with a 45 grain X Bullet in a 22 Hornet. That combo really is impressive for what it will do considering the size of the case and the bullet. I would not hesitate to tackle 300 pound deer with the 70 grain Speer. Would just limit the distance I would try it at. The amount of damage it did to the deer I have taken was pretty impressive. It did a quicker job than a 30/06 bullet would have done in the same spot. JMO> Good luck to him if he uses it, and good luck to you on the post. Hope you won't need your flack jacket at all. | |||
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Don't forget the Winchester 64 grain Power Point. I haven't used it on deer, but in my AR-15 it was deadly on feral hogs. It was also very accurate and I actually used it in several High Power matches as an economy bullet. I buy them in bulk from MidSouth Shooters Supply. I think Winchester loads them in the .22-250. See http://www.ttha.com/224tth.htm for an article from Texas Trophy Hunters about bullet choices for their wildcat .224 deer cartridge. Best regards, Jeff in Texas | |||
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quote:My experience is similar, though conditions here during gun season for deer make the .22-250 tough to use successfully. Most of our hunting is woods and the average .22-250 rifle and load does not lend itself to fleeting shots in even light cover. Regardless of bullet construction, it is easily deflected, at best, and easily fragmented, at worst. My use has been in open areas where I am able to be very selective about what shot I take. Since heart/lung shots are always taken, I have not seen much of a difference in bullet performance if the weight exceeds 50 grains. I shoot 55's lately, but only because their accuracy is good. Most heavier bullets blow right through if no big bones are hit. 40 or 45 grain bullets may not exit, which is indeed a problem if death isn't instantaneous. I've used Sierra 63's and Speer 70's as "deer bullets", but didn't see any real advantage and preferred to shoot one load at everything. I have a box of Nosler 60 gr. PAR's I haven't opened in a couple years of laying there on the shelf. If short well, they all kill them, if shot poorly, nothing will make it better. The very big disadvantage is that if the deer is hit well and within good range, it kills very quickly, but if that doesn't happen, there's no blood trail. A long shot that doesn't expand, or a poorly placed shot without an exit will usually leave zero blood to follow. | |||
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quote:My big concern would be finding a bullet that will hold together at the high impact velocity that a 22-250 will have at 25 yards. I'm not necessarily opposed to the caliber itself, it's just the same thought process of a lightweight bullet out of a 7mm Mag up close.... explosive bullet performance with no penetration. If he presses on with it, I'd definitely suggest the stoutest bullet that you can find... (Doesn't Barnes make a 22 cal X-bullet now?) | |||
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If you're looking for factory ammunition, I believe that Winchester offers their 64 grain Power Point in .22-250. I know that they do in .223, and they list it in the catalog as a "deer" load. | |||
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I've shot a bunch of bigger Missouri deer with a .220 Swift and the 55-grain Sierra, it's not my pick either unless I was strictly meat hunting. One took about two steps, the rest were immediate kills, all with broadside shots. this is the key and is the reason I won't use it when trophy hunting, I want to be able to shoot a big buck at any angle! | |||
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IF there is a WW load with their 64-grain bullet, use that! Otherwise, find someone to load up some 60-grain Noslers or 55-grain Barnes X's.... | ||
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Hogwild, Most any 55gr. bullet(or factory load) will work, at any yardage!!!! I have a 22/250ACKLEY that lazered a 1/2" truck spring at 20' with a 55gr. Sierra spitzer. the holes were about 30 caliber going in and 45 cal out. If a so called varmint bullet will punch a hole in a truck spring, then a deer will not be a problem. Replies welcome. Stepchild | |||
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http://search.cartserver.com/search/search.cgi?cartid=a-7002&category=Ammo&maxhits=20&keywords=a2250cafa try thr federal 55 gr. trophy bonded. knocks deer dead. quick. | |||
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I've used the big 22's for about 20 years on various critters here in Montana. (deer-lopes-bears and elk). Yep when pointed right they will do just fine. So Powder River let er rip! Here is some of the bullets I've used. 55 Horn *60 Horn HP *60 Horn SP *55 Nosler SB *60 Nosler SB 55 Nosler BT *55 Trophy Bonded *60 Nozler PT *63 Sierra *64 Win I've found the stouter bullets to not give quite as quick as kills but they do work quite well. My favorite by far is the 63 Sierra, it's done some great work for me over the years. "GET TO THE HILL" Dog | |||
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quote:Dog Have you really shot elk with a 22 caliber ?? Hollywood | |||
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Hollywood-yep I have, have a couple of buddies who have shot quite a few with them-don;'t tell anyone though-I'd hate to get anyone wound up! And no I would not recommend it-nor am I looking to get into it with anyone over this. "GET TO THE HILL" Dog | |||
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Coldbore I'm not necessarily opposed to the caliber itself, it's just the same thought process of a lightweight bullet out of a 7mm Mag up close.... explosive bullet performance with no penetration. the first buck I ever shot was at 20 yds with a 7 mag with a 139 gr spitzer. Penetration? Well the blood path behind the buck through the snow was about 4 inches wide for 50+ feet. I believe that is adaquate. | |||
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I have to agree with Mark here, I and several of my hunting buddies here in Montana use the 22-250 with very good results on deer 40+ and still ticking and no we have not lost any and only 3 have required more than 1 shot. I have had very good results with the 63 gr Sierra and with the 64 win power point, the sierra is my favorite by far, accurate and will exit on braodside shot as long as you avoid the bones. I would however prefer that the shots not be closer than 50 yds to keep the bullet together. | |||
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First off, allow me to say I don't think any 22 caliber is a GOOD deer round. Now having said that I will tell you that I have shot a lot of deer with the old 222 Rem mag and it is just about a dead ringer for the .223. Most of these as I recall were hear shots, taken on feeding deer and at 60 yds or less. The Hornady 55gr accounted for most of them and it sure worked them over as most times the deer was down before you could drop the rifle down and look. I would not use it again but make no mistake, it will sure work. | ||
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what is the twist rate in this guys barrel, it may not be compatible with the 60 and up grain bullets, I saw a used savage 270 in the gun store the other day for like 185$ use this as an excuse to buy another rifle | |||
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I shot countless hogs and many deer with 223, 22-50 AI and 220 Swift. The Swift was used before all these cool bullets were around (1980s)and we used the Hornady 52 or 53 gr match bullets. Four of us used Swifts with this bullet including the landowner who culled a lot of deer with his. Total number was well over 200 deer and only one time did a bullet fail to thru and thru on a chest shot and most deer and all the hogs fell in their tracks. Really tough jackets. Most deer were meat deer and I confess, today I wouldn't take any 22 when hunting horns. | |||
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rws 74gr kegel spitz. this bullet is loaded at the high velocities of the 5,6x57R and holds up pretty well being a terrific killer. but check your barrel twist for stability, as it is a loong bullet. montero | |||
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Federal loads the nosler 60 gr. partition in their premium line of ammo, that should suffice for whitetails unless they go over 200 lbs. RR | |||
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In Norway and other Scandinavian countries we use the 22-250 exstensivly for deer. But you have to pick a premium bullet to ensure maximum penetration to have bloodtrail to follow, if poorly shoot. The bullets of choice Barnes x 53 grs loaded to about 35-3600 f/s Nosler PT to the same velo Rhino Solid Shank 55 grs to 3700+ f/s GS Custom HV 50 grs to 39-4000 f/s All these bullets will hold together an penetrate almost as well as a normal Sp bullet in 150 grs kal 30. We always use premium bullets for "big game". means big game for the caliber used. That way you can stetch the limits for cartridge pretty far. Smaller calbers with todays premium high teck bullets outperform lager calibers if they are used with normal Sp/Hp's Try them all in wetpacks of soaked paer with 3-4" of try paper in front you'll see what I mean. Good luck with deer season this year to all of you. | |||
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Sauer 150--what the heck is a Rhino solid shank? Never heard of the b4? Thanks "GET TO THE HILL" Dogz | |||
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Rhino Solid Shank is a South African bullet constructed as the TBBC with lead insert in front, massive copper rear. Moly coated. Hold together and mushrooms to the same big diameter as TBBC but much easier to get good presicion with. More info on this link : http://www.rhinobullets.co.za/ | |||
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