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I have a 1:9 twist Bob so I can shoot up too a 120gr bullet. The rifle will be for deer and hogs. I have every .257 bullet made. In a Bob do I shoot the 100gr TSX that retains all it's weight or a 120gr cup and core??? 100gr cup and core? Perry | ||
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I like the 120s at about 2900ish. to me it's a sweet spot considering trajectory, terminal performance with standard CnC bullets, and minimal recoil. As a matter of fact it pretty much mimics the now-popular 6.5 CM performance on deer.  But if your rifle has a preference, go with it. Hard to beat a good 100gr bullet at 3050 or so. | |||
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Ive always had a 257 or 250 Savage around for deer and even elk early on...As far as deer are concerned either a 100 gr. or 120 will work just fine...The 100 gr. is a little faster, shoots flatter by a bit, and kills real well. I like the 120 on elk.. As to your question, Id use the one that shoots the best groups.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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If you are handloading go for the Partition. I have used it in 115 grain in 257 Roberts with perfect results. | |||
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I am using a 117 Sierra SPBT in my 257 Roberts. I've shot several mature (=large) Mule Deer Bucks at various ranges from 200 yards to 325 yards as well as several Antelope. Every one has dropped on the spot and I'm not recovering any bullets, all pass throughs. Two of the bucks were shot at steep angles so the bullet had a fairly long path through the body and still getting exit wounds. At one time I thought I would use a mono metal bullet but with results like this I'm not switching. My son has shot a pile of Whitetails with a his .257 Roberts which we shoot 100 grain Sierra's in it, very similar results. He has shot one Buck at 200 yards and all the others were 70 to 150 yards, lots of internal damage and exit wounds as well. | |||
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100 gr. NBT started at 2900 fps works pretty much the same as Snellstrom's 117 Sie. Accurate, too, in a light rifle-no need to push for the last few fps. Clarence | |||
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the one that shoots the best is the best answer. the Bob doesn't go fast enough to need premium bullets. I like the Hornady 120 H.P. and so does my win feather light. if I had to use the speer 100gr controlled expansion or the sierra/Hornady 100gr SP my heart wouldn't be broken, seein as how I already use them in one of my 25-06's which doesn't like the 120hp. | |||
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I've used the 115 Ballistic tip and the 120 Interlock HP. Both worked great. I would go with whatever shoots well and not worry about bonded or solid copper. | |||
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That is the recipe I use with Lora's .257. It prefers the old 117 grain Remington RN Core-locts, but those are no longer available so I have been working with the 115 grain Barnes TSX. I did purchase some 117 grain Remington 117 grain spitzer bullets so will be working with them. With all my rifles, I find the bullet and load that the rifle likes best and stick with it. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I love the 120gr Hornady HP. Unfortunately, Hornady has seen fit to discontinue it...along with the 100gr IL!  | |||
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no 100gr interlock? dammit I just dropped my cookie. I guess I better go downstairs and see how many I have of them in storage. for god's sake can't they just leave stuff alone. | |||
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I've always been under the impression that the 120gr HP from Hornady was a bit hard for the Bob. | |||
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I load the 110 grain AccuBond for my Roberts for game the size of pronghorn or larger. I used to load 100 grain bullets for some game and 115 or 117 grain for others but the switch to the 110 makes life simple. | |||
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My sons rifle is shooting the 110 Accubonds into little tiny groups but we have not yet used it on any animals. | |||
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Personally in the 257 Roberts I'd stick with the 100gr bullet. And that would be the 100gr Swift Scirocco.! | |||
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Both of my sons shoot 250 Savages. I handload 110 grain Hornady Interbonds in one and 110 grain Nosler Accubonds in the other. These loads have taken deer, hogs, sheep, and axis. | |||
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I've had better luck with the 100 grain bullets in the two 257R's that I've had. Neither one was as accurate with the 115 and 120 grain loads. I was only shooting whitetails. I'd try both and use the most accurate. Cup and core have given me good results on deer, but good bullets are seldom a waste of money for game. Bfly Work hard and be nice, you never have enough time or friends. | |||
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Perry: I had an email exchange with a Hornady Rep many years ago. He said that the jacket thickness in the base and the side wall were thick to promote penetration. But the jacket in the nose section was the same as the 117gr boat tail. I've used that bullet a lot over the years at a MV of about 2900. It has always worked great on our deer. Only recovered one, and after traveling from stem to stern on a mature buck, it looked lie a Hornady ad. | |||
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Bottom line is cup and core or premium bullets work on deer..The reason is deer are not hard on bullets and they are mostly easy to kill, any bullet in the heart lung area works IMO..In fact cup and core bullets open up faster to a wider expansion surface than premium bullets like Nosler partitions..Im a Nosler partition fan in the 270 and up and they work better on larger calibers than they do on smaller animals in my experience, but they definatly work.. To me for deer? and one wants a quick kill, go with a WW power Point, or Rem Corelokt..If you want to save as much meat as possible use a Nosler or monolithic or a heavy for caliber bullet and expect a run up to perhaps a 100 yards or more in some circumstances but 30 to 40 yards is the norm even with tough bullets. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I'm with Ray on this one. The 117 SGK is my favorite bullet for the Roberts. I get 2,800 fps from a 20" barrel and lovely 1/2" groups. I've never needed a second shot with a 117 SGK over the past six or seven deer and hogs. Tucked in behind the shoulder and it makes hunting easy. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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I think I'll go a little different route. I would drop down to the 80 grain TTSX. The max for the most accurate powder yeilds roughly 3300 fps. That makes your rifle shoot pretty flat at the distances I typically shoot. A man I know that used to work at Barnes used them in a 25-06. He said they killed like a lightning bolt. Straight up the hill from the Barnes Plant. A long ways up. He won the big buck contest that year. | |||
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dwheels: several years ago, I decided to see what the hullabaloo surrounding the TTSX bullets was all about. I tried the 80gr TTSX in a lightweight 257 Roberts. I got almost 3400 fps and great accuracy. The first 4 deer I took were between 50 and 150 yards. They all went down quickly, with much the same reaction as they do with my 257s and 120gr bullets. The last deer was a mature buck at about 280 yds. He was quartering away. He was a step away from very thick brush. I tracked him for several hours...zero blood. Finally, stumbled across him in a dry creek bed, about 250 yds from when I hit him. Bullet did not exit. FWIW, I will still use the 80TTSX in this rifle. It is very accurate and recoils about like a 22-250. But I will limit the yardage to about 200 and shoot for bone. YMMV. | |||
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So what were the details with the mature buck? Could'nt have gone 250 yards with a vitals shot. Had to expand or it seems like it would have exited. Perry | |||
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Bullet entered near the last rib on the right side, traveled through the lungs, was buried in the left shoulder, did not exit. I asked the processor to look for the bullet. When I picked up the meat, he said it disintegrated, which I do not believe. I just checked the distance on Google earth from where he was hit, to where he was found. It was only a little over 190 yds, straight line distance. | |||
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My favorite rifle that is chambered in .257 Roberts loved the old Winchester 100 grain silver tip. For deer size game I could find no finer bullet for this rifle. | |||
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...And if anyone out there wished to sell any of he old Silver tips I would be more than happy to take those old things off your hands. | |||
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Those old SilverTips look cool, too! | |||
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I had an older Browning compact A-bolt in .257 Roberts....it's action was a tad short for the 120 grain HP I usually shot so I picked up some Winchester 100 grain silvertips....they were quite a bit shorter bullet which fit the Browning nicely....they killed deer like magic.....I still have some loaded rounds and no....they aren't for sale. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I'm sure their not for sale | |||
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Chas Is the ST a soft bullet or controlled expansion? I've heard they are great deer killers but no one ever elaborates on them. Thanks. Perry | |||
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The "silver" tip is but a very thin aluminum cap....it's value seems only to add color to the Winchester logo of "silver tip" Remove it and there is a lot od lead exposed.....For this reason, I'd rate the silver tip as a very soft bullet....one that puts a very hard hit on deer size animals. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Vapodog ~ Could not say it better | |||
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Perry~ I can't help you with the "st".. since I have not used them. The Hornady 117 grain round nose was another one was fine but just could not get the accuracy like the 100 grain. | |||
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ive killed quite a few deer with the 257. Ive used about every cup and core bullet from 100-120 grain. Anymore I have two loads for out in the farm fields I like a 100 cup and core bullet. They shoot a tad flatter and have a bit more velocity so they still open up well at 300 yards or a bit more. For deer hunting in the woods I like either the 115 bt or the 117 sierra flat base spritzer. They open up will out to any range your going to shoot in the woods and hold together at the typical 50-100 yard ranges your going to encounter without tearing up as much meat as the 100s. If I had to pick just one bullet it would probably be the 117 sierra | |||
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Thank you much. I used NBT in 100gr at about 3,000 fps and switched to the TSX when it came available. The NBT would destroy so much meat in the shoulder area with heart/lung shots BUT would just hammer deer. I have to say that that bullet in the 257 drops deer like lightning. | |||
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