I haven't ever cared for looks of the 110s or their newer offspring, BUT, anyone who doesn't think they are good value for the average everyday shooter/hunter is, I fear, badly mistaken. They also can do their thing successfully in competition.

In 1999 I talked the Savage Marketing Director into giving a shooter from Sandy, Oregon a deal on a Savage which he campaigned in "Production" Class that year and won a national championship with it. Other than adjusting the trigger (pre-Accu-trigger days) it was as the rules required back then...completely unaltered other than putting a scope on it.

And it was not a selected gun. He picked it up off the shelf of a store of his choosing in Portland, and she sent him a rebate check. I had a little trouble talking him into campaigning it at first, but when he started winning match after match and setting some Production Class national records, he sorta warmed up to it.

As for other Savage rifles, I have personally owned a bunch of Savage 99s in .250 Savage and never had one of any vintage which wouldn't shoot better than 1 MOA groups with selected handloads.

I grant you the bolt guns aren't beautiful, but when it comes to "using" guns one has to be careful not to cut his nose off to spite his face.

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They also can do their thing successfully in competition.

As far as I'm concerned they have never failed to deliver excellent avccuracy....nor has the company shirked in service.....but accuracy is only one component of the equation.....

I've owned a couple bolt rifles in .223 and 22-250....both excellent varmint rifles.....and varmints was the end of it as both were single shots.....not by design....by default.....failures in feeding....the safety not functioning properly, the bolt disassembling on me, or the trigger acting strangely.....but they were accurate all right!!!!!!

I've also owned two M-99 rifles....both in .308 winchester....the first locked up so bad I had to ship it back to savage....LOADED.....the second my father owned.....fired less than three boxes of ammo (all factory loads and it has excess headspace and I had to replace the extractor.....the metal to wood fit is also poor.....and for a presentation rifle this stinks.....

No let up on Savage from me.....

BTW I allowed myself to get a M-93 22 Magnum with the accu trigger.....darn thing works very well....shoots exceptionally well...but in the first box of ammo fired It failed to extract the empty casing three different times.....I was spared the ramrod trick as after several workings of the bolt it finally did extract.....but it's accurate!!!

My bitching, if you will, is about the accutrigger on one rifle and the way the repair wasn't handled. I own 7 mod. 200s that I love to play with , I own a nice 22 LR w/ an accutrigger that so far is just fine and not long ago I gave away a mod. 340 in 30-30. As a youth I owned mod. 99s.This one accutrigger has really been the only failure experienced with Savages.
The only other feature I do not appreciate is that the bolt action ejectors get solidly jammed with soft brass or a little over pressure. roger

Roger, you'll be very happy with the SSS trigger. I never cared for the Accutrigger either. I put one in the 12BVSS I had in .223, and I was able to get the rifle down into the .2s, which is about as good as I can shoot.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Roger, you'll be very happy with the SSS trigger. I never cared for the Accutrigger either. I put one in the 12BVSS I had in .223, and I was able to get the rifle down into the .2s, which is about as good as I can shoot.[/QUOTE
Thanks, Bill. roger

I guess I lead a charmed life.

I've never had any of the troubles you folks seem to have had with Savage rifles. Of course, I haven't had the troubles with Remingtons which folks report about THEM, either, and I still have lots of Remingtons.

I don't currently own many Savages because I think the bolt actions are ugly and a bit oversize. I still haven't forgiven them for doing away with the rotary magazine and the cartridge counter on the Model '99s either...and then the '99 itself off and on. So the only Savages I have now are all older '99s with the rotary mag, etc.

It's a good thing I got into rifles over 65 years ago. Otherwise, I'd have gotten all my info from the internet, and would know that virtually every factory rifle out there is a POS in some group of folks' eyes... so I wouldn't own any for fear of shouldering the socially unclean.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Barstooler:
I would never have an AccuTrigger ... primarily because it would be attached to a Savage.

Barstooler

FYI it was also used on Ruger varmint rifles back in the '80s and maybe even into the '90s.....

Don't have one of those.

Don't get me wrong. I believe the Savage 110 and varients are good, accurate, servicable rifles. Several of my friends own and shoot them. I have shot many of these rifles. However personally would never own one. I do not like the way they look or feel. I would rather spend my $$$ elsewhere.

Barstooler

AC, my friend, I confess that sometimes I load up my 1940s 99 in .250-3000 JUST to watch the brass cartridge counter work!

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
I guess I lead a charmed life.

And I hope you continue to do so for many more years to come.
Tell you what; when I or fjold change out that accutrigger I'll send it to you so you can have a POS also.What are friends for? roger

And I'll be happy to receive it Roger. I can probably find something I can adapt it for use on.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Tell you what; when I or fjold change out that accutrigger I'll send it to you so you can have a POS also.What are friends for? roger

Now there's real camaraderie for you!

I have recently acquired a model 10 chambered for the 22-250. This model, of course, has the accutrigger.
I have to admit that this rifle is still very new, I have only put exactly 26 rounds through it. Never the less, the accutrigger has worked perfectly.
Further, the rifle groups well too. Secretly, it probably shoots better than I do.
I like this rifle, and other savages I have shot and personally owned. One of my most cherished possessions is a 30-06 that my Grandpa gave me. It is no less than 30 years old, and likely more. The 06 is a real shooter too.
I guess, like some other posters, I have just been fortunate. The savages have always worked flawlessly for me.

Let me help you out, what a bunch of cry babies in this thread. I sure hope you all arent what stands between me and the communist chineese, because if you are, we are toast.

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Originally posted by AggieDog:
Let me help you out, what a bunch of cry babies in this thread. I sure hope you all arent what stands between me and the communist chineese, because if you are, we are toast.

I guess I miss your point!?!?
But if you will be so kind,tell us,why do you need some one to stand between you and the communist Chinese? roger

Roger, did you get that trigger yet? Eager to hear what you think of her.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Roger, did you get that trigger yet? Eager to hear what you think of her.

Has not arrived. will keep you posted. roger