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Thats good to know that the 110gr bullets are made for deer.I kind of thought they were. You are right for long range more weight is good. | ||
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I just loaded 110gr Sierra bullets for my 270 Win. Sierra load book said that these will go 3300fps. I think they will do 3200 fps. Have these bullets been used on deer? | |||
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I have a 270 AI (26" barrel)in which I load the Hornady 110gn HP to 3440fps with local equivilant of 60gr IMR4350. At this velocity they are very explosive on wild dogs but I would be reluctant to use on deer sized game. | |||
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I have a 22" barrel And I'm using H4831sc for powder 61.5gr my bullets are not HP but SP thats why I think 3200fps is more like it maybe 3300fps And maybe a deer load. What do you think? | |||
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Can't say mate, I've not used them. For our red deer (80-100kg) I use the 140gn Noslers mainly to ensure penetration and to anchor them on the spot. | |||
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I wouldn't use any 110 .277" bullet for deer, unless they were something like an X bullet. Stick with the more conventional weights for deer. 110s work on coyotes, but they are too thin skinned for deer. | |||
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Bob Jorden, who writes for Precision Shooting has used 110 gr. Sierra's for years deer hunting and reported exellent results. Personally, I use 130s in my 270 for deer. I have used the 90gr. Sierra HP for coyote calling and it flat takes a coyote apart. Pedro | |||
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I'm going to just sorta get close to the real topic--but maybe close enough. To begin with with a 100 grain bullet in .270 and a 100 grain bullet in the 6mmRem the .270 is faster at the muzzle,but the distance where the 6MM takes over is very close and the same with the .243. This is comparing about the worst for the .270 and the best for the 6mm's. This would make me think about the same is true of the 110--not too good a choice for a .270. I have used 110 grainers in 30-06 and don't ask me for what purpose? I really see none--doesn't make the 30-06 a varmint rifle in my books and there is a little less recoil than with 150's for example--but not a great deal of difference. So my thinking would really be why would you want to use 110's in a .270? 130's there would be no question. | |||
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I was thinking maybe they would be good for a deers ear shot unless its a buck. Down south I was hunting deer with my 7mm mag but at the bunk house I was told that down hear they shoot the deer in the ear with small bullets 100gr. Kills the deer on the spot.Thats no BS. | |||
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JRO, I think you've been the victim of some bunk house BS. Sure about any bullet in the ear will kill a deer...but WHO hunts that way. I assume most people go out to bag the best they can find. If all they want is to ambush some poor doe for the meat, take a 22 Hornet. Most 110 gr bullets in 270 are way on the explosive side at normal ranges. I'm suspicious of guys who say they've been using them for years on deer with wonderful results. I always want to ask how much meat their "wonderful results" have destroyed. But some hunters only care about the horns and don't give a thought about blowing half an animal into dog food. Bottom line is I'd use the traditional 150 for deer or a good quality 130. There are valid reasons why these are the traditional bullets for deer size game. If those boys want to play games with "ear shots," that's their business. I suggest you show up with 130 or 150 and then YOU will be ready for whatever comes down the trail. And of course the 130/150 will also work in the ear. | |||
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My 110 bullets aren't HP's they are soft points. The next deer hunt I go on I'll have both the 130gr and the 110gr bullets with me. I'll decide what to use at the moment. A friend shot and killed a deer with a 25/06 100gr bullet. It was on a show on TV not to long ago that a man used a 257WBY with a 85gr bullet and shot a ram on a mountain side and killed it. So I really don't see nothing wrong with the 110gr bullet. | |||
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I shoot the 90gr. in my 270 Win and it has good accuracy with low recoil. Great for shooting pasture grizzlies and coyotes, but a little short on penetration and energy for deer. Last year in the 270s I moved from the 130gr BTip to the 140 Accubond. Performance is good and time will tell if I stay with the 140. I don't think you will be satisfied with the light bullets on deer unless you are extremely selective and that could be pretty tough if the Big Boy shows up and doesn't offer the ear shot and is out there where that 110 is dropping like a rock. | |||
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JRO - Read my post again, my friend. I did not say the 110 gr bullet would kill. Light bullets often kill game as quick or quicker than the heavier bullets. So why don't hunters all just shoot the fast light stuff? Answer, these bullets are explosve in impact. They create horrible wounds on the animal. Essentially, if you shot a deer in the shoulder with a 110 gr 270 bullet, you can cut off that whole shoulder and drop it in the trash can or feed it to the dogs. The hind quarter would not fare much better. And these light bullets will also explode on anything they hit between you and the critter. I've watched a lot of them simply turn into a grey puff of lead somewhere between me and the target. As for you taking both bullets hunting/ I have this terrible image of you out there with a big buck in front of you and there you are with your action open, frantically fumbling for heavier bullets and trying to get the 110s out of the chamber and dropping both in the dust. Meanwhile the buck has just crossed into the next county. I'm not trying to be critical of you...just practical. I used to carry some 30/06 loaded with FMJ with me on deer hunts when I was a kid. Idea being if I found some turkey, I'd change to the FMJs. Never worked that way. Never once. Wild animals usually don't sit around and wait for us to unload and change ammunition. That's why we call them "wild animals." Again, I apologize if I sound sarcastic or critical. Such is not my intent. Your theory sounds good on paper. It's the application I question. | |||
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I've shot deer with mt 300 Win Mag with 180gr bullets and ruined the meat where the bullet entered. I've shot deer with my 30/06 150gr bullet killed the deer didn't ruin the meat. I've shot boar with my 7mm Mag 160gr bullet ruined some meat not a lot. As you can see I've been there done that. I thought I'd try something different with my 270 Win with the 110 bullet. If I loaded my rifle I would load 110gr bullet then 130gr bullet then 110gr bullet and 130 in the chamber. The shots I take are 150 yds to 300 yds. | |||
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"Ruining meat," JRO, is always a bit of a crap shoot. Just how much meat is ruined depends on a lot of factors. Bullet construction, velocity, what and where the bullet hits the animal, etc. Frankly, the 130 out of a 270 can be pretty explosive as well unless you pick a bullet especially constructed NOT to be explosive. All I'm saying, JRO, is I think you are upping the percentage of some serious meat damage by a significant percentage. And however you stack that magazine, 110,130,110,130. Or if you go 130,110,130,110...whatever, you can bet the hunting gods will do something to make it the wrong combination. Probably a law of the jungle somewhere. In my early years I know I screwed up a lot of deer hunts by simply outsmarting myself with crazy ammo schemes and whathaveyou. The steady old hunters know the best way to go is just have a gun and load you are competent with and totally familiar with under any circumstances. Then you hit the trail and play the cards that are dealt you. But have fun. Enjoy your hunt. That's what it's about. I don't think the 110 gr bullet is going to send you home empty handed. | |||
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I used to shoot the 90 gr Sierra HP moly coated at about 3500 from my 270. Incidental to coyote hunting I had the chance to take three deer with it. Two were "in one ear out the other" head shots so no surprises there. The last one was a buck Axis, well over 200 lbs during the rut. I had a 50 yd broadside neck shot that shattered the bones and made a full exit on the other side with that puny, thin-skinned little bullet. Having had that good fortune doen't mean I would consider it a deer bullet and had I been primarily deer hunting I would never had taken that particular load. I think you will be severly limiting the shots you COULD take if you try the 110 and I don't think the deer will wait around while you reload if you take both. | |||
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