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VG got me to thinking about what are the top 5 varminting cartridges that have ever been devised. here is my list 1)22lr 2)223 rem 3)204 ruger 4)22-250 5)17 hmr in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC | ||
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.22 LR .223 .220 swift 22-250 .222 I'm what you call your basic famous. | |||
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Yep Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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220 Swift 22-250 22 Hornet 219 Donaldson Wasp 222 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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1) .220 Swift 2) .22 LR 3) .22/250 4) .243/6mm 5) .223 Founder....the OTPG | |||
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Don't think there's much wrong with the above, but I have to view it in historical context, and the influence cartridges in the past have had. As an example, I don't think the .17 HMR has been around long enough to be considered, though that does not detract from its utility. So, without priority in order, here I go... .22 Hornet, which led to the K-Hornet, one of the first wildcats. .219 Zipper, which made excursions into the world of velocity that opened eyes. .250-3000 Savage, which led to the .22-250. .220 Swift, which opened a lot of eyes, and a lot of varmints a long way off. .222 Rem., that made varminting practical for the average Joe, and provided above average accuracy. JMO If yuro'e corseseyd and dsyelixc can you siltl raed oaky? | |||
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I'll take a stab at it .222 .223 .22-250 .243 .257 Rob /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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22lr 22 K Hornet 223 220 swift AI 25 STW Thi is tough as when I'm off on a typical poodle shoot I usuaslly have at least 20 rifles with me so some can cool and I have some for all the ranges you can encounter (5 feet to over 2000 yds) My record is 1750 plus paced with 2 sighters. The above 5 are ones I would not want to do with out bu tin truth there are many more. 222 22PPC 6mmppc 6mm rem 22-250 17hmr 17 rem 204 20 tac 257 roberts 25-06 7mm stw 30-378 50 bmg and a host in between | |||
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Here's another opinion: .22 Hornet .222 Remington .22-250 Remington .243 Winchester .223 Remington (or .222 Rem Mag, same ballistics) LLS | |||
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1. .22 LR 2. .22 Hornet 3. .222 Remington 4. 22-250 Remington 5. 25-06 Remington Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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I think VD got it.VD? roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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ok I think the 222 is out, the 223 is a slightly better performer, more popular, and cheaper ammo in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC | |||
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[quote]ok I think the 222 is out, the 223 is a slightly better performer, more popular, and cheaper ammo Agreed But I would drop the Rimfires IMO If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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Here is what i think: 1..22-250 2. .223 3. .220 Swift 4. .222 5. .22 Hornet Foget the .204, I had one and was disapointed with it and sold it. Not saying they are bad, infact they are deadly for long range rabbits ect, but when it comes to coyotes, forget it. Not enough ammo selection in my opinion. Now this is just my experience with this cartdrige, im sure folks have shot plenty of yotes with this caliber. | |||
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#1 25-06 in a heavy barreled big gun with lots of glass #2 22-250 or 220 swift same as above #3 338 lapua for those 1500 yard yotes #4 22 LR #5 17 HRM for waxing crows. | |||
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I like the .22 LR in a long barreled Woodsman. I have shot more stuff with that than any combo. After that I like the Swift and 243 and remember to make up some reduced loads for each to keep the noise down. There are plenty of other good ones. Join the NRA | |||
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My ancient stab at the answer. 22 LR 22 Hornet 219 Donaldson Wasp 22-250 222 Rem Of course this is from my likings, not necessarily true. Don Edit to add: The 257 Roberts could make my list easily. | |||
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I gotta agree that "of all time" throws out the 204 and 17 HMR even though the next generation may include them. Assuming "of all time" and you classify buffalo as varmint hunting (who said size counts?) I would add the 45-70, 22-250 (even though I'm a Swift guy), 222, 22 Hornet, and 243. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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22 Hornet 222 220 Swift 243 257 Roberts | |||
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223 22-250 221 Fireball 22lr 17 Remington Of al time, maybe not, but then again, if your hardcore on the predator masters forums...then you know what the most popular and favorable for the majority of preds out there | |||
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If "top five" means has seen the most use expressly for varmints, then I would say 1. .22 LR 2. .22 Hornet 3. .222 4. .223 5. .410 shotgun (you can't believe how many farmers and ranchers over the years have kept a .410 on the back porch for skunks, coons, and rattlesnakes) | |||
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As an Englishman, I do not enjoy the same freedoms as you lucky Americans when it comes to the ownership and use of firearms. Therefore my list is as follows: .17 Rem .22LR I dream of owning a .220 Swift one fine day. All mushrooms can be eaten, but some only once. | |||
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My first five choices would be: 1.] .22 lr 2.] .22 Hornet 3.] .222 Remington 4.] .22-250 Remington 5.] .243 Winchester But for honorable mention I would go with; 6.] .223 Remington 7.] .220 Swift 8.] .257 Roberts. 9.] .25-06 Remington 10.] .22 WMR Lawdog | |||
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22Lr 22WRM 22Hornet 223Rem 22-250 I noticed no one chose 223Wssm? Popular Huh | |||
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close..... the 6 mm Remington needs to go in there somewhere... on a long action... it is a different animal than a 243 then.. If on a short action, the 243 is fine.... cheers seafire | |||
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22 LR definitely 222 223 22-250 243/6mm | |||
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Seafire B17G: I retort in kind. From the wonderful and timeless movie "Blazing Saddles" says Slim Picken's character to his hoarde of horseback marauders when they come to the toll gate out in the middle of the prairie - "Holy shit - somebody go back to camp and get a shit load of dimes"! I burst out laughing every time I think of a scene from that movie! Aahh just one more while I am laughing! Madeline Kahns character (the Teutonic Twit!) as she is frolicking with the Sheriff (Cleavon Littles character) in the dark - she exclaims "Oh my, its twue - ITS TWUE"! Back to the list of the top five ALL AROUND Varmint cartridges of all time (in no particular order)! #1: 22 Remington Bench Rest #2: 6mm Remington Bench Rest #3: 204 Ruger #4: 22-250 Remington #5: 17 Remington Next five in no particular order. #6: 17 MachIV #7: 223 Remington #8: 220 Swift #9: 222 Remington Magnum #10: 243 Winchester Next five in no particular order. #11: 17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire #12: 222 Remington #13: 221 Remington Fireball #14: 6mm PPC #15: 6x47 Long live Varmint cartridges! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy | |||
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"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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They are selling very well but are to new to make the list. Mine is extremely accurate. Lawdog | |||
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Lawdog_Gary, I dissagree on the 223, 243, and 25 WSSM bullshit. It's a good thing everyone can make small runs of rifles to test out sales ability. Thank god for CNC, you would never see this many rifles in so many different calibers in the old days. I have never seen one in a store in Wyoming, and folks in Wyoming buy a lot of different rifles. | |||
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There are a lot of great calibers, but availablity is important to most hunters because they don't reload. 1. .22 lr 2. .17 HMR 3. .223 4. .22-250 5. .243 Sei wach! | |||
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I tend to think they are probably the: 22lr. 22wrm 222Rem. 223 22-250Rem. The .22Hornet and .222Rem.Mag. have also experienced fairly long periods of popularity. Best wishes. Cal - Montreal Cal Sibley | |||
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I wouldn’t base what the stores in Wyoming are carrying as an example of what sales are nation wide on a particular cartridge but according to the folks at Winchester the WSSM’s are selling very well. As long as they perform as advertised(and they do) they will keep on selling. I own and shoot a number of .224 and .257 caliber rifles(big fan of the Quarter Bore) and the WSSM’s fit right in. You may not want one or even like them but many shooters are buying them. The “Short-Fats†are gaining in popularity so they are here to stay. Lawdog | |||
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Maybe some explanation would help 22 LR: cheapest and myriads of fine guns are available with incredible accuracy. For me it is especially important that the subsonic ammo is quiet since I shoot coyotes around my horse ranch. It is a cold killer of coyotes up to about 75 yards after which the slow stuff drops off rapidly and drop can cause misses. Great all day all family cartridge. 222 Rem: Nearly deposed by the 223, but still the most accurate round around. It is a must for the list. 223 Rem/5.56 mm: The current hands down champion for centerfire 22. Ammo abundant, cheap, and accurate. Available in more guns (and more KINDS of guns) than anything else. 22-250: A fine longer range 22 cal and legal in some states for deer. Superb round. 243/6mm: For the long range shots, mild wind bucking, crossover cartridge for deer and even elk. They are accurate and mild enough for all day shooting. The are an all family gun. I personally use larger for elk but several friends have switched to the 243 for elk. They have about 35 between them with no losses. They are all EXCELLENT shots. Ammo for all of these are available everywhere. If I were to add another, it would be the Swift. | |||
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I must be the only guy on the planet that likes the 225 Win. I know, I know, it flopped. But mine sure works well! | |||
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long shots, when its a bit windy.. 378 WBY Mag ! I tend to burn a bit more powder than my 22-250 though !! LOL I just like things that go BANG!!! | |||
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Big fan of my old Rem 788 in .22-250. Driveing TACKS @ 250-350 yards. Five rounds @ 200 yrds fitting under a dime w/o seeing paper cut! I think they call that STACKING!!! Oh and BaldMummy, that BIG BANG that you like so much sounds alot like M O N E Y waisted! just kidding ( i love it too ) NRA Life Member Protect our Second Amendment. Teach a child firearms safety and respect. Teach a child to shoot today! | |||
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.22 LR .223 Rem .220 Swift 6mm Rem .257 Wby Praise be to the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. | |||
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Yer day goin' kind of slow fer ya?? This thread is from 2005!! | |||
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Hey guys, I think VD left one out: The .243 Vapodog This has to be in the Top 5 | |||
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