I am thinking about having a custom varmint rifle built for me. I only wish to shoot varmints out to 250 maybe 300 yards max which is why I have not chose a 22/250 or 220 Swift.

What would you choose?

Does anyone have experience with 6mm PPC in a AR-15 configuration? What magazine do you use? The 7.62x 39mm mags jams the cartridge right between the feed ramps on the barrel extension and .223 mags don't handle the case taper very well, so they nose-dive. My O.A.L. is 2.08" with Barnes 72gr XLT. I am using 220 Russian Lapua brass with the neck turned to .264". The bolt is for 7.62x39mm.

Ejection seems a little soft too, but I can adjust the pneumatic recoil buffer to compensate.

Other than that, it's awesome. My first loading(after fireforming)was .46" at 100 yards. I used the 72gr Barnes XLT hp with 27.4 gr of H220 and #400 CCI primers. No neck crimp. I fully resized after fireforming since this is an autoloader.

Ok, nevermind. I milled small "feedramps" into the front of the 7.62x39 mags and they work perfect now.

Who knows, thats just a personal choice...I like the 6x45 ()6mm/223) in my little Sako L461 action with a custom stock and 2x7 leupold compact, done in English style, its cute and shoots fantastic groups with its 18 inch light weight barrel.

I also have a Sako Raahamakii clip model in .222 with a 7X Leupold fixed scope that I like..

The 6mm will handle wind better by a bit I suppose and kills better at long range on stuff like coyotes and I have shot a lot of deer with it and the 75 gr. barnes x bullets...so it can be dual purpose..

I still don't have the answer to your question.

Very easy choice for me.If you keep it with in 300 yards .I would go with the 222 Rem.They are awesume

safari_hunter:

You're asking about my 2 favorite cartridges. The deuce is always a favorite. One of my special rifles is a Sako Hunter Lightweight in 222. But I also shot benchrest for quite awhile. I can tell you for a fact that the PPC is easier to shoot than the 222 at 200 yards and over. The PPC shoots a 68-70 gr bullet at about the same velolcity as a 222 does a 53 gr. If I was going to spend a bunch of money on a custom rig it would be a lightweight PPC. But either one is a winner.

knobmtn

If the question was 6PPC or 6BR vs the 222 I'd have to go with the 6 BR. To me the PPC cases since they are an odd ball case rim size, are like the people who drive a Peugot and act like they know some secret everyone else does not know.

Sure a 6PPC is suppose to be accurate, but I don't think I am a good enough shooter to have a 6PPC out shoot a 6BR for me, or out shoot a 222 etc.

If you are shooting at anything bigger in real world application than Flies,( so you don't need 1/4mm accuracy) I'd go with the one that gave me the less logistical head aches. So my choice would be the 222 hands down.

Ruger made their Varmint Target rifle in 22PPC and 6PPC. They dropped them because sales were very low. No one wanted to fool around with all the brass problems etc the Benchrest crowds and they were making custom guns anyway. They would look at a guy sporting a factory PPC from the likes of burqeois Ruger, like a Wall Street banker would look at a guy who wears a suit from Sears Roebuck.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire

Seafire: I have seen a few of the Rugers 77V's as well as some Ruger #1's in both 22 PPC and 6mm PPC. I have seen a couple of the 77V's in 6mm PPC in use at Rifle ranges. They shot very well. About the time I decided to join the Sears & Roebuck suit crowd and buy one the Ruger folks indeed quit making the PPC's!
I heard from several sources that one of the P's in PPC had filed a civil lawsuit against the Ruger company for using the PPC cartridge chamberings without permission (recompense?). The suit I heard was settled but Ruger never again offered these calibers! I do not know this for fact but I know other factories use the PPC cartridge (Sako & Cooper for instance) and perhaps they have the blessing of both Pendell and Palmisano to do this?
I know I am simply amazed at the accuracy I get from my factory Sako single shot, bolt action Rifle in 6mm PPC.
I would have to agree that the 6mm Remington Bench Rest cartridge is also amazingly accurate and has the advantage of additional velocity over the 6mm PPC.
I do know this that Ruger Rifles in both 22 PPC and 6mm PPC are highly sought after by Gunshow types!
I wonder if anyone has specific knowledge as to why the Ruger folks quit offering the PPC's?
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy