29 January 2006, 00:20
gophershooterBuilding a .204-Twist?
I am getting ready to order a Shilen .204 barrel to put on a pre-64 SA m-70.Any advice on twist 1-9 vs.1-12 will be appreciated w/regards
29 January 2006, 01:22
lookoutfor the weight of bullets avaiable for the 204, I cannot see why you would want a fast twist. I would go with the 1-12
lookout
29 January 2006, 01:28
MarkI have a Shilen 12" twist and it will not stabilize the 40gr Vmax unless they are loaded on the hot side. If you are shooting lighter bullets 12" is fine, but if ranges for you are short where you are and are using it for coyotes think about a 9 or 10" twist. For what I do I am happy with 12"
29 January 2006, 02:21
Jay JohnsonIf you have any thoughts about shooting the heavier bullets i.e. 50 Gr. go with a 1 in 9 twist. You can still shoot the lighter bullets but it doesn't work the other way.
29 January 2006, 04:12
MuleriderJay nailed the answer. The Rem 223 1:9 twists have shown how the faster twist offers versatility w/o negatively effecting accuracy.
This topic was recently discussed thoroughly on saubier.com/forum.
Also great info on the .20's at 6mmBR.com.
29 January 2006, 07:13
Rod SmithWhat was said about the 223 is true with the
1-9. I want to get a 204 barrel for my Encore,
but I will hold off until I find someone selling
the barrel with a 1-10 or faster.
30 January 2006, 22:19
BlueprintedI have a 20-222IMP I planned on shooting 40s. 12 seemed marginal. I did not want the fast 1/9 twist barrel, because I was afriad it would twist lighter bulets apart. I have three Pac-Nor barrels 2 17 and a 20 now. They are fantastic. I went with a 11 twist Pac-Nor and it shoots 30s-40 excellent. I did not see a need to shoot 50s from this gun, but I will be shooting some custom 45s. Pac-Nor seems to have it by the ass for sub calibers. The three groove barrels I own refuse to cooper foul and clean real easy. They clean as good if not better than my Liljas and Harts. Their customer service is about as good as it gets, and the barrel comes with in a day or two of when they promise. Just my experience, not bashing Shilens. I would check them out in a 1/11 or 1/10.
31 January 2006, 03:57
MntngoatIt's my intention to shoot 40 grain Berger bullets and I will end up with a Pac- Nor 11 twist barrel.
Michael
01 February 2006, 03:33
Jay Johnsonquote:
Originally posted by Blueprinted:
I have a 20-222IMP I planned on shooting 40s. 12 seemed marginal. I did not want the fast 1/9 twist barrel, because I was afriad it would twist lighter bulets apart. I have three Pac-Nor barrels 2 17 and a 20 now. They are fantastic. I went with a 11 twist Pac-Nor and it shoots 30s-40 excellent. I did not see a need to shoot 50s from this gun, but I will be shooting some custom 45s. Pac-Nor seems to have it by the ass for sub calibers. The three groove barrels I own refuse to cooper foul and clean real easy. They clean as good if not better than my Liljas and Harts. Their customer service is about as good as it gets, and the barrel comes with in a day or two of when they promise. Just my experience, not bashing Shilens. I would check them out in a 1/11 or 1/10.
A friend has the 1 in 9 shoot 32 Gr bullets great. I'm really interested in the low to mid 40 Grain bullets myself. But I doubt the a 1 in 10 would stabilize them.
I agree Pac-Nor knows the smaller calibers.
01 February 2006, 05:36
M16quote:
a pre-64 SA m-70
I wasn't aware that Winchester made any pre-64 short actions.
01 February 2006, 06:23
gophershooterM16;When did you crawl out from underneath a rock.Winchester Pre-64 made short actions in 22-hornets to 308,s and a lot of calibers in between.w/regards
01 February 2006, 07:48
M16Gophershooter: I hate to be the one to tell you this but the hornet and .308 pre-64s were built on long actions. Unless I am mistaken Winchester did not build short actions until the 1980's or so.