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I'm looking to get one in 243 and have it drilled out to 6mm Remington Improved 40 degree or to 240 Weatherby and just keep it mild. I want to shoot 70 grain bullets close to 3900-4000. My question is mainly about the rifle. They have all the bells and whistles, but do they shoot? Does anyone make anything that compares? Full floating 26" fluted Krieger barrel. Full aluminum bed blocked stock. Fully adjustable trigger. Less than $1200 delivered? | ||
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It is not a Krieger barrel, it is a barrel mfg'd by a company that is owned by Krieger. Totally different rifling processes. One is cut the other is button The aluminum block your refer to, may/maynot make complete contact with the action. By a Rem send it to your favorite "smith" and you can have a better rifle. | |||
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Yes, I thought about it and if I didn't already have a 25-06 Improved all tricked out I would be all over an Accumark in 257. My buddy just got one and it's one fine rifle. I have a 22-250 Varminter and feel the need for another dedicated varmint rifle in 6mm. The .823 stainless fluted 26 inch tube really has me hypnotized. I guess I'm a sucker for shiny things. My question here, I guess, really ought to be, does anyone else really have a SVM of their own and do they like it? | |||
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Sorry... NO input on the varmint model, but this may shed some light; I have one of the Ultra Lt Wt sporters, in .280 Rem. Composite stock with the alum bedding block, the light fluted barrel,etc. Mine as well as a buddies in .270 win BOTH shoot VERY well. Apparently WBY has figured out how to do the bedding blocks, fluted barrels,etc. I would imagine that the varmint grade rifle should shoot well. My .280 will hold under an inch groups at 200 yds with hunting bullets. MICROSCOPICALLY under an inch in the high .9's, but under an inch none the less. Pat's .270 has shot a few .8" fgroups at 200 as well. We only do three shot groups as one seldom shoots these guys more than a shot or two anyway. If you do get one; Please post a report OK?? FN in MT | |||
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I have one in a .22-250. At first I had some trouble getting it to print, but that could be for a number of reasons. The barrel is stinking long! The gun doesn't fit in most of my gun cases. Also, I noticed that I feel the recoil more in this gun than others, but I have heard that comment about Weatherbys before. Nevertheless, it shoots. It will print under .5" at 100yds any day of the week. For what it is worth, the longer barrel seems to add some velocity as well. | ||
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I also have the .22-250 topped with a Leupold 6.5-20X. It is the most accurate rifle I currently own and that is with factory Hornady 50 gr. V-Max ammo (moly) believe it or not. It does shoot tighter groups that my Cooper, Sako or Kimbers. | |||
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The only reason I would consider one of these over an accurized Rem would be for the single shot version. You could easily get a Rem Varmint model accurized for the same or less money. Buy a Rem and have the locking lugs lapped and a few other things done and I bet it will outshoot the Weatherby. Going the Rem way would open up options for a better trigger. | |||
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I am not sure, but the single shot is in 220 Swift. If it is in other calibers, I have not not seen it yet. You'd have to check that out or ask someone who knows for sure. I see that many people strongly believe in the accuraized 700 Rem. It is a proven design for sure. Are there functional advantages of one over the other? You'll have to decide. We live in the golden age of riflery and cheaper no longer means poorer quality like perhaps it once did many years ago. I like the Weatherby action and the weather-proof stock is also attractive. The rifle fits well and once I had the load for it, it shoots with the best of them. Is it worth the extra cash? Sure. They hold their value farily well and life is tooooo short to drive anything but a sports car. Some rifles just plain shoot. You can be sloppy and they just print no matter what. The weatherby is not like that. You must be very disciplined with that rifle to get consistent grouping. I have had to pay very close attention to the way I held the rifle to make accurate shots on the bench. That may be obvious, but it seemed to me that the Weatherby reveals all my bad habits. | ||
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I dont see how you can get a better trigger than the Weatherby. On my 257 WBY got the trigger down to 6 ounces and I deer and elk with it. | |||
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My trigger is 8 oz. on my SVM. My gunsmith said that the triggers that Weatherby is currently using are some of the best that he has worked with. | |||
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For prairie dogs, a 6-8 oz trigger may be nice but I wouldn't feel right with something that light for a big game rifle. JMHO. Weatherby's are very nice rifles....any way you look at it. | |||
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From my recent experience with Remington 700P, Weatherby would be a serious consideration. The story: bought a new rem 700P the fire cases from which had 4 thousands runout. Rem C/S agreed to work on the rifle. It came back with runout reduced to 2 thousand (not a great deal) but the chamber is now so big that the first time you come within a grain of a max load in the books, the case is ruined. It shows sign of fatigue just above web. Per my experts, the only solution is to re-barrel the new gun. Don't think Weatherby would put out this quality. Ron | |||
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i would buy a savage fp and put $800 in my pocket. i tried the new accu trigger and it is sweet. the gun i shot will group better than i can shoot. that weatherby at half the price might compare but i would bet alot of money it wont outshoot the savage. you could have bipod, awesome glass in rings and bases, dies and bullets for what you will have in the weatherby alone. and the vermin will never know you saved all that money. just food for thought....... woofer | |||
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Who makes this rifle for Weatherby? I know that Howa, a Japanese company made their Vanguard rifles, some quite good ones at that. Is the varmint rifle made elsewhere as well? Best wishes. Cal - Montreal | |||
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quote:Weahterby Mark V rifle shave been made by several firms. Weatherby's website does not say anything about this. I have learned this after following several forum threads and corresponding with Weatherby. The first Mark Vs were made by the German firm of J.P. Sauer and Sohn in the late fifities or early sixties. By around 1974 or so, production of the Mark V was moved to Howa in Japan. In 1994, the rising Yen made Japanese made Weatherbys expensive to manufacture and an American contractor was selected. That company was Saco Defense, in Saco, Maine. Saco made Weatherby Mark Vs up until around 2001, when Saco Defense's new owner (General Dynamics) decided to concentrate ALL production at Saco to military firearms for the US Government. Weatherby then went to Acrometal, Inc. in Brainerd, Minnesota for its Mark Vs. The Weatherby Vanguard is still made by Howa. All suppliers of the Mark V have had to meet the same very high standard of quality. In this regard, Weatherby is just like Browning. Browning has not had a factory in over 100 years. Virtually ALL Brownings have been made by contractors since around 1905. FN, Remington, Sako, and Miroku have been the principal ones. There is actually no firearms manufacturing at Weatherby itself, and there hasn't been since the late fifties, when Weatherby was making its rifles from FN actions in Southgate, California. Weatherby's location in Atascadero, California contains its offices, distribution, and a customization shop, but all manufacturing is done by contractors. Weatherby o/u shotguns are mde by SKB in Japan, its semi-auto shotguns are made by somebody in Italy, and its side by sides are made by Hermanos Zabala in Spain. HTH. [ 05-26-2003, 08:29: Message edited by: Orion 1 ] | |||
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