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I just bought a Carolina Precision Rifles custom chambered for 250AI. Do any of you have any suggested loads? I plan to form the brass using 117 Sierra BT & a max 250 Savage of H4831.
 
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The two that I have do very well with RL15. One is a heavy barreled Ruger #3 that shoots 75gr V-Max into .5" at 100yds and minute of PD out to 400+yds. The other is a Sporter weight with 24" barrel. It shoots equally well with 100gr NBT.
Check the Sierra #5 manual for specific load data.
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Sierra #5 manual

thanks, just ordered 1.
 
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I just bought a Carolina Precision Rifles custom chambered for 250AI.

Roll EyesJust one mans opinion but I find that cartridge about as usefull as tits on a bore hog . beerroger


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Roger, ever owned one or spent any time shooting one?


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I just bought a Carolina Precision Rifles custom chambered for 250AI.

Roll EyesJust one mans opinion but I find that cartridge about as usefull as tits on a bore hog . beerroger


Got a deal, I really need it as I have a 250 Savage, 3 ea 257 Roberts, & 2 ea 25'06's
 
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I had a Contender barrel chambered in 250AI. I should have my butt kicked for ever letting it go.
 
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Roger, ever owned one or spent any time shooting one?

Roll EyesActually NOT.I've owned the 250-3000, .257 and 25-06 IMP. Would have gotten the 25-35 but saw no need for it either. old Whatever the 250 Savage improved could do the .257 could better.
If some one wants a 250 Savage improved they should have it. I don't see that it offers any IMPROVED performance , however. beerroger


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Roger, P.O. Ackley said it was the best of all the "Improved" cartridges that he and Prater ever did. Works better in a SA than the 257 Bob.


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Roger, P.O. Ackley said it was the best of all the "Improved" cartridges that he and Prater ever did. Works better in a SA than the 257 Bob.

popcornPoint well taken ,Doc Ed. As for myself, I've never looked for or bought a rifle because it had a short action. The 1/2 " never impressed me , I guess. beerroger


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I've had 257's and 257AI's in both long and short actions. They fit fine in a short action and the amount of case capacity volume you gain in a long action results in a theoretical incease in velocity potential(pressures being equal) of about 50fps. No practical difference, IMO.
 
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I've had 257's and 257AI's in both long and short actions. They fit fine in a short action and the amount of case capacity volume you gain in a long action results in a theoretical incease in velocity potential(pressures being equal) of about 50fps. No practical difference, IMO.


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You will love this caliber, you can fireform WW brass, or Get 6XC brass from David Tubbs or Norma.
Just use a tapered expander and some Nosler 100 BT's. You will be amazed at what RL17 will do.
 
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I had trouble feeding the 250AI in a Ruger 77 RSI that had been rechambered from 250-3000. I bought a 250-3000 barrel from Ruger and rechambered it to 25 Souper (25-308) and it feeds fine. The 25 Souper, 250AI, and 257 Roberts have approximately the same case capacity, depending on the brand of cases, and will cover the same spectrum of game, no more and no less.
 
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I loaded 10 cases with 117 Sierra Boat tails & 40 gr of H4350. Shot 3 groups, all at about 1", it is really hard to shoot a 6# rifle.

Next week I plan to carry my chrono with me to the range & shoot 3 groups with 117 Sierra flat bases & IMR4350, 3 groups with H4350 & 3 groups with 100 GR Sierra flat bases & a max load of RL15.

My rifle feeds 250AI cases perfectly but I lost 1 case in 50 to the Redding Dies.
 
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it is really hard to shoot a 6# rifle

Yes they are ..... Fly-Weights are a handful off the table.

Try a regular bag rear rest and sandbag front with your forehand on the sandbag holding the forearm firmly, pull stright back into your shoulder ...... or bring the front rest as close to the action as you feel comfortable with and extend your forehand around the rest giving the forearm a firm grip, light pull straight back.

Really helps the lighties from bouncing off the bags or rest.

Good Luck w/your 250AI.


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Roger, ever owned one or spent any time shooting one?

Roll EyesActually NOT.I've owned the 250-3000, .257 and 25-06 IMP. Would have gotten the 25-35 but saw no need for it either. old Whatever the 250 Savage improved could do the .257 could better.
If some one wants a 250 Savage improved they should have it. I don't see that it offers any IMPROVED performance , however. beerroger


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According to Sierra it's the cartridge they use for their daily quality control in 25 cal.
And to me 3,400 with a 90gr. bullet ain't nothing to sneeze at and it's also shown as their accuracy load. Reference: Sierra #5 manual.

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117 Sierra flat bases on left, 117 Hornady Boat Tails both with 41gr of IMR 4350



 
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I had a 99 and a small ring mauser in 250-3000 IMP. and it was pretty amazing in that I got at least 300 FPS improvement, so no complaints at all, a great caliber.

But, my opine is the 250-3000 std. is a great deer, antelope and varmint caliber and will work on elk within its confines, but IMO the beauty of the 250-3000 is in its mild recoil, lack of muzzle blast, and it's just a pleasure to shoot..I still shoot and hunt ocassionally with my standard 250-3000s in a couple of 99s.

If I wanted more gun the I would opt for a 257 Roberts or a 25-06 depending on my needs or wants..I had my small ring rechambered to a 25-06, another great caliber, but its long gone.. Were I to run across a nice 250 IMP I'd probably jump on it.

I have a nice G33/40 skeltionized and lightly engraved action, and it is destined to be a 250-3000, might even cut it in half and make a kurz action in 250, but a 7x57 would be nice also.


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I have a .250 Ackley that i'm starting load development on.
It's on an FN Supreme action, Montana Rifle Co. barrel, Timney trigger, Buehler(sp)safety and it's in a real nice(AAA) piece of walnut and it has some nice touches such as an engraved floor plate,and a jeweled follower, Leupold(4-12)scope and mounts. Sweet!
This action came out of Prescott,AZ so i'm thinking Rachael Wells may be the engraver? Nice work regardless.

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I have a .250 Ackley that i'm starting load development on.

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Probably get .257 Weatherby velocity from that as well as your .257 Roberts IMP.....eh?

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The winner is 120 Sierras with 41.0 gr of IMR4350.. shot 3 ea groups in 3 different days & got .5-.75" groups. I'm not ever close to 257 Roberts velosities at about 2675FPS but that will kill anything I shoot in the swamp.

 
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Tom,
RL15 seems to be the choice of many, Including Sierra the "Bulletsmiths" Look at the data for 90gr. bullets in your new #5 Manual.

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The reason Roger won`t try the 250 AI is that he knows that after shooting the hell out of everything there is to shoot where he is located will mean he has to find good homes for his other rifles!LOL
Mine is almost a clone--- actually I built mine in 1978 so mine is older I guess but is a 600 with a 21.5" McGowan barrel, kevlar F/W Winchester stock and weighs a little less than 6.0 loaded with a 1 3/4X5 Redfield LPWF scope. It also has a M-16 extractor and a custom made bolt release I made. I did have feeding issues but solved it with a lot of magazine tweaking. It has taken everything I need to kill/shoot for over 35 yrs with no complaints. I make ALL my brass for it out of L.C. NM 308 brass. A little less powder capacity but I still get 3300 with 100 gr Nosler Solid Base bullets and is "very" accurate. It is always a toss up to see what rifle goes out in the hills. It or a duplicate in 25 Souper.
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please post a picture of your rifle.. A close up of the bolt release would be nice.
 
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The reason Roger won`t try the 250 AI is that he knows that after shooting the hell out of everything there is to shoot where he is located will mean he has to find good homes for his other rifles!LOL
Mine is almost a clone--- actually I built mine in 1978 so mine is older I guess but is a 600 with a 21.5" McGowan barrel, kevlar F/W Winchester stock and weighs a little less than 6.0 loaded with a 1 3/4X5 Redfield LPWF scope. It also has a M-16 extractor and a custom made bolt release I made. I did have feeding issues but solved it with a lot of magazine tweaking. It has taken everything I need to kill/shoot for over 35 yrs with no complaints. I make ALL my brass for it out of L.C. NM 308 brass. A little less powder capacity but I still get 3300 with 100 gr Nosler Solid Base bullets and is "very" accurate. It is always a toss up to see what rifle goes out in the hills. It or a duplicate in 25 Souper.
Aloha, Mark


We are still shooting the one, a Ruger tang Ultralight 308, you rebarreled for me many years ago with a take off you had in your pile. It is boringly a 1/2" piece with the 100 gr TSX pushed by IMR4350. It goes 3000 fps from its 21" barrel.
 
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Glad to know the old girl is still producing. That, to ME, is the best thing that can be said. Thank You very much. May God Bless and keep you and yours.

Aloha, Mark


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Mine is almost a clone--- actually I built mine in 1978 so mine is older I guess but is a 600 with a 21.5" McGowan barrel, ***I make ALL my brass for it out of L.C. NM 308 brass. A little less powder capacity but I still get 3300 with 100 gr Nosler Solid Base bullets Mark

ConfusedThat is quite an achievement for a 21 1/2" barrel. That is 25-06 velocity level. Not too shabby. Roll Eyesroger


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P.O. Ackley himself stated the 250, 257 and 7x57 were the most improved of al his Improved calibers and they all show about 300 FPS improvment, and that is considerable for sure. His all time favorite was the 250 Sav. Imp. btw.


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