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Anyone know if someone's making one yet? Would like some info.
Wanting to rebarral a NO.1.
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with the ability to push them to over 4000 with the .223 case ya got to wonder if the 250 case is a tad much.

Have a look at the 7.62 X 39 case and the (if you can find them) .25 remington case.

To your question on the 20-250...no...you're the first to bring it up...sorry...no help here.


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I know this is going to sound funny but, I wanted to see what blue dot might do in this wildcat! Eeker eek2 Eeker My .204 will group five in .212 at a 100 yards. with no recoil and at a velocity of 3460ish.and with a spread of only 7 f.p.s. thumb
Thanks VD I know someone has or will make one soon. Might be me, we'll see.
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You might want to give Walt Berger a call get his # from Berger bullets he was telling me about the 20x250 using the heavier Berger 50gr bullets alot seem to think the case has the right capacity for those heavier bullets over the 204 case. Well good luck.


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check out saubier.com. small caliber board with some pretty cool wildcats. The 20-250 has been done, not sure what the results have been, but seems a natural for the 50 grain bergers and a ridiculous trajectory.

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Just got off the phone with Kevan Weaver of Weaver Rifles. Might have a Ruger#1 in 20-250 a.i. in my future. beer jump beer
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This data is from Kevan Weavers sight


20-250 IMP Load Data:



Winchester 22-250 necked down cases, Federal 210 primers, Pac Chronograph placed 12’ from muzzle.

NOTE: MAX LOADS REDUCE POWDER CHARGE 20%



Bullet Powder Charge Velocity

40gr Hornady Winchester 760 37grs. Fire form



33gr Hornady IMR 4350 42grs Fire Form



36gr Berger Winchester 760 46.5grs 4587



40gr Berger Winchester 760 46grs 4469



40gr Berger IMR 4320 42.grs 4492



40gr Berger N135 35grs 4267



40gr Berger N540 40grs 4401



40gr Berger N160 45grs 4264



40gr Berger Varget 41grs 4352



40gr Berger IMR 4350 45grs 4353 most accurate load



40gr Berger IMR4064 43grs 4487



50 gr Berger N560 43grs 3958 most accurate load



50gr Berger N160 44grs 3955



50gr Berger H4831 43grs 3972



50gr Berger IMR 4831 45grs 4088



50gr Berger MRP 45.5grs 4014



50gr Berger N165 45grs 3953



50gr Berger RL 22 46grs 4078



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So do you buy barrels 6 at a time, and have them all headspaced and ready to go on the reciever?
Throat errosion must be impressive with 46 grains of powder and a MZ of 4587.

The results on varmints and the resulting grin might make it worth it though. Wink


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338vt, check out the site below. LOTS of good info. BT53

http://www.6mmbr.com/20Caliber.html#BulletTables


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I'm having a dozen shipped in for the spring. Roll Eyes bewildered Roll Eyes
If you keep the barrel cool, you'll be suprised how long they will last.

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Thanks for the link. If you go to Keven Weaver's sight(Google it) you'll find he's working on a 20-220 swiftAI Eeker, But I think that might be a little much.
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Well I had a 17-250, like I said HAD!
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Rusty,
When we play with hotrods, some things are par for the course. I had a 20BR built a few years back. When I asked my gunsmith about barrel life, he said, "No biggie. When you burn up the barrel, just put another one on!"
 
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Smiler It was tounge-in-cheek guys. Believe me, I understand what goes on in hot rod guns. I did a lot of high volume shooting as tests just to see what, when and where barrels burn up. I could tell you things we did to guns that would make a "gun-nut" cry.

I shoot with a fellow that had an AI 220 Swift back in the 70's. He got 500-600 shots per barrel. He would order 6 barrels at a wack and pre-fit and headspace them in his machine shop. When accuracy went south, he'd spin one off and drop in the next barrel.

I'd tell you how fast he was pushing 55 grain bullets... but I didn't believe him either. Wink

Blacktail, Ive been to that site a lot latley, I keep have a reoccuring fantacy of a 20VarTarg in a 26" Encore. Damn, here it comes agian. lol


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It was tounge-in-cheek guys. Believe me, I understand what goes on in hot rod guns. I did a lot of high volume shooting as tests just to see what, when and where barrels burn up. I could tell you things we did to guns that would make a "gun-nut" cry.


I think that the 20-250 is a little much. But you may find this article interesting if you haven't read it. You might want to pay close attention to the part on 20 BR. That has my interest for sure.

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I just picked up and started loading for a .204 Ruger, but if I were going to build something today I beleive I'd walk out the door with a .20 VarTarg myself. It seems to have all the qualities that I would need for a walking varmit rifle. BT53


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