Is anyone else shooting any of the ICL cartridges? I have two Juenke-Saturn rifles, one in .300 ICL and the other in .375 ICL. For all intents and purposes, the rifles are basically .300 and .375 Weatherbys without the convenience of factory brass, but I still have s soft spot for them. I met Arnold Juenke a couple of times back in the mid eighties when I didn't have two nickels to rub together. I wanted one of his rifles, but they were just out of my league at the time.

Anyway, something of a blast from the past.

My .300 ICL. It has a horribly ugly muzzle brake on the end.



Said aforementioned brake:



A .300 WM, .300 H&H and the .300 ICL.

I'd take the break off and never look back. You don't need it and it's noise

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Originally posted by AfricanHunter:
I'd take the break off and never look back. You don't need it and it's noise

I'm really torn on that. Arnold Juenke was really big on muzzle brakes back before many people were using them, and he was very proud of his (ugly!) design. The barrel is very thin, and the brake works well; but it's really loud and really ugly. One of these days, I'll find someone who can make a good looking cap like the one at the end of the rifle in the next post.

My .375 ICL is in much better shape than the .300. Barely a few handling marks. If I can, I'll take it to Africa to complete the cycle, so to speak. The muzzle is threaded for a brake, but the threading is capped.





.375 ICL fire formed from .375 H&H:

I have a friend who had one on his table at last week's SA gun show with dies and properly marked brass.
If any one is interested i can contact him for you.

I think Vern ?/ Arnold also claimed the brake prevented muzzle jump. I can not figure that out as the ports are on the sides instead of the top.

Nice wood, Lee

Very interesting post.
I have a few Weatherby chamberings, my favourite is definitely the 375 Weatherby. Out of interest, I fireform H+H brass to get Weatherby brass, either 300 or 375 when available, my brass ALWAYS shrinks around .020" in OAL, how much does your brass reduce when fireforming?
What velocities are you getting with that ICL cartridge?

Cheers.

I never really thought about the shortening issue. I just measured a couple of cases. The fired case was 2.818 and the unfired case was 2.842. It appears that my experience mirrors your own. In terms of performance, I've never really pushed the cartridge as there's been no real need locally. Recently, however, I've been following the RL 17 / .375 Weatherby threads and I picked up some Barnes 250 gr TTSX bullets for some testing. Once I've got a baseline as to how the starter loads perform in my rifle, I plan on working my way up to something interesting.