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02 June 2005, 12:37
voyager
303 British
Hi Gents
Any of you gentlemen know about any wildcats developed on the the 303 British??

I imagine that 303 British would be a good "foundation" for a good medium bore rimmed hunting / sporting caliber!!!

// voyager
02 June 2005, 13:13
deciple-of-keith
Yes the .303 has been the parent case for many wild cats here in Auz for many years probarly the most popular being the 25-303 .Most of these "wildcats " had factory ammo made for them some years ago !But there were about 5 types of .22 -303 ,243-303 ,25-303 ,6.5-303 ,270-303 ,303 EPPS,35-303 that I know of & have used & owned many of them over the years.


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02 December 2005, 07:46
hiredgun
Check out the Ontario Canada web site 303british.com
It has an excellent paperbook which lists many, many of the 303 based wildcats.
04 December 2005, 01:34
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by voyager:
Hi Gents
Any of you gentlemen know about any wildcats developed on the the 303 British??

I imagine that 303 British would be a good "foundation" for a good medium bore rimmed hunting / sporting caliber!!!// voyager


I understand that the Aussies made a lot of them in different calibers, as did Elwood Epps of Canada. The Epps .303-based wildcats I have seen are all nice, very interesting cartridge, particularly when chambered in a P14 rather than a "Smelly".

As a matter of fact, in a strong action, the .303 Improved can rival a FACTORY-LOADED.300 H&H (as can the .30/40 AI).


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04 December 2005, 03:30
jeffeosso
i saw the title on this one.. and thought
:"hmm, now there's a diehard wildcat hater, if he's still calling the 303 a wildcat"..

ditto on the epps.. blow it out, improve it, neck it around, and it can be about the same boiler room.

el deguello,
i wound up in a nasty conversation over a statement i made just like yours, but on the 375...

and yep, a skilled handloader can work those rounds to match NOMINAL/Standard 3XX HH balistics ... (and the part this is naturally implied) but, of course, that same skill could make the HH go faster too.

jeffe


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04 December 2005, 04:19
Con
deciple-of-keith,
Any experience with the 303-35? I went cold but am now reconsidering getting Keith Bridgeman to put a 303-35 together for me. Just not sure whether he can make me a FL resizing die.
Cheers...
Con
04 December 2005, 04:34
45otto
The .303 Epps is probably the best heard of in the U.S. It's basically an improved case.


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05 December 2005, 07:22
Amphibious
quote:
Originally posted by Con:
deciple-of-keith,
Any experience with the 303-35? I went cold but am now reconsidering getting Keith Bridgeman to put a 303-35 together for me. Just not sure whether he can make me a FL resizing die.
Cheers...
Con



I'm having a .303/25 done this spring. Lyman and C4HD makes dies.
22 December 2005, 02:47
tera
quote:
Originally posted by deciple-of-keith:
Yes the .303 has been the parent case for many wild cats here in Auz for many years probarly the most popular being the 25-303 .Most of these "wildcats " had factory ammo made for them some years ago !But there were about 5 types of .22 -303 ,243-303 ,25-303 ,6.5-303 ,270-303 ,303 EPPS,35-303 that I know of & have used & owned many of them over the years.




tera
Whether it its measurement of these wildcat what the casings its are shortened or not
22 December 2005, 03:22
Sixgun Symphony
Where can I get data on the .303 Improved?


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22 December 2005, 19:06
DobleTroble
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BGMOO8/qid=1135263...846&s=books&v=glance


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22 December 2005, 21:32
Sixgun Symphony
Thanks! Smiler


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23 December 2005, 03:19
Con
tera
Whether it its measurement of these wildcat what the casings its are shortened or not[/QUOTE]

tera,
Finding standardised measurements for the 303 wildcats is very hard. The Australian wildcats with the word "Falcon" in them tended to be the .303 case necked down eg. "303/22 Falcon". I've just bought a 303/25 and it uses a shortened case. Many also were "improved" designs with less body taper, sharper shoulders or both.
Its a very confusing area.
Cheers...
Con
25 December 2005, 06:15
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by tera:
quote:
Originally posted by deciple-of-keith:
Yes the .303 has been the parent case for many wild cats here in Auz for many years probarly the most popular being the 25-303 .Most of these "wildcats " had factory ammo made for them some years ago !But there were about 5 types of .22 -303 ,243-303 ,25-303 ,6.5-303 ,270-303 ,303 EPPS,35-303 that I know of & have used & owned many of them over the years.




tera
Whether it its measurement of these wildcat what the casings its are shortened or not


I think that some of the smaller-caliber Epps wildcats on the 303 case were shortened, but the larger aliber ones just had the full-length case shoulders blown out and forward to hold more powder.

Dimensios of some wildcat cartridges aree conmtined in P.O. Ackley's HANDBOOK FOR SHOOTER & RELOADERS; others are included in CARTRIDGES OF THE WORLD.


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