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I am thinking I would like a 300 Win Mag in a Browning blr And re barrel it to 35 caliber. Do you think we can do that? It would make a really fun mid caliber deer rifle. Optik1 | ||
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Yes of course. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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So, how much does a Browning BLR weigh? A 300WM convertd to 35 caliber will be basically a little more powerful than a 358 Norma Mag. Does the rifle have enough weight to mitigate the recoil? I guess recoil is a personal thing. Perhaps you'd be just fine. | |||
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I've been shooting a 340 why for 20 years so recoil is not an issue. Anyone have an idea of cost for the conversion and who might do it? | |||
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The bullets would have to be seated deep enough to fit, you might be just as well off with a 358 Norma? | |||
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+1 Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I would like a 358 Norma but I like the idea of having 35 in a BLR. I have three Whelens and a STA. Just like the lever actions. Back to my original question, can it be done by reasonably? | |||
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The 358 norma mights well be called the 358/338 mag. To me, a better fit in the BLR then the 300 win case. | |||
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I think you would need the takedown version as that one has a barrel nut that can be taken off the old barrel and reused for the new tube. Then it would be a simple thread and chamber to fit along with an identical contour. Easier would be to get the BLR in 358 Win and call it good. I have an old steel receiver BLR in 358 and it is impressively accurate. I rebarreled an older steel frame BLR a few years ago to 250 Savage and that turned out very well. Still have one barreled action BLR in 308 I'm unsure of what I want to barrel it in. Something 6.5 most likely but ??? Shoot straight, shoot often. Matt | |||
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Thanks all. Still got a jones. | |||
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Optik1, Folks who are suggesting 358 Norma (vs 358/300 WM) are still suggesting it for the BLR you have in mind. It's just that the 300 WM case had the body blown out further than the other Winchester belted magnums and the case is longer. So the 358/338 WM or 358 Norma would allow the bigger bullets to be seated a little longer and still be able to fit in the magazine. | |||
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You will never the less have much more recoil than a 340 due to weight and design of the BLR IMO..plus a hand in a lever straight grip and a 6 lb. 35 magnum..plus a short barrel perhaps..Im sure all these things can be overcome however, but expensive.. The newer pistol grip BLR in mag calibers would work I suspect, and much less costly. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I would do a 375/338 or 375/300 take it to Africa and kill a cape buffalo so you can piss off all the DGR snobs Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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The way things are going in todays Africa and all the changes and rules and regs going on, I wouldn't take a wildcat cartridge to Africa.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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