Gentlemen

Does any of you know what kind of wildcats that have been doen on the 6,5/8X68 case?

I have heard of a 7X68, but not much more.

Cheers
/ JOHAN

Johan,

I made a 375 wildcat on the 9.3X68 case...a different case I know from the 8X68S, but close to it in capacity.

Garrett

Most of the large Newton cartrdges, 30, 33, 35, and 40 were made on similar dimensions. There is rumored a 7mm version on this case also. Evidently, Fred Adolph had wildcatted some similar case for his line of Adolph Express rounds.

Johan,

Sorry about the typo...
I meant to say 9.3X64 case.

Garrett

N. Garret -

How did the .375 on the X64 case perform? I always wanted to try that but got scared away when i had a hard time getting brass.

Sabot,

It has worked out great so far.

It will duplicate factory 375 H&H loads with no problems.

I built it on a custom Mauser action, and had it powder coated OD green (in a camaflage synthetic stock).

I took it hunting in BC, but passed on shots on a small elk and moose (I was really looking for something in the 50-60 inch category).

There is nothing wrong with the 9.3X64 Brenneke, but I like the wide availability of .375 bullets.

One of my disappointments with my 404 Jeffery (my only disappointment really) is that there are only 3 real choices for bullet manufacture in that caliber.

With my 375 wildcat I have been able to play with over a dozen different bullets, and not spend a fortune doing so.

Garrett

if you take the x64 case, shorten to 2.1" and neck it to 375, you have
<drumroll>
376 steyr

jeffe

I have often thought the 8x68 would be even better as a .338-68. I would think it would be close to a .330 Dakota.

Gentlemen

I got news today, Mr David Tooley has made a 7mm, 30 cal, 338 on this case. There is also a wildcat called 257 banshee. I contacted Tooley and the 7X68 is close to the 7 STW in performance

Montero, on this forum has made a wildcat 8mm wildcat on the 64 Brenneke case called 8 mm Mazon

/ JOHAN

376 Steyr case is 2.362" long.

Fritz
Thanks for the link, no problem.

I think it's fun to see some new calibers. I wonder why Norma or Lapua never had picked up the 8X68 and 9,3X64

Auf Wienerschnitzel

/ JOHAN

Fritz Kraut

thanks for the links. I know that the 8X68 and 9,3X64 are quite popular in Austria, Germany, and Spain. Norma are a bit bone headed in my opinion

I have to agree that some of the European cartridges are really interesting. Soemthimes a bit better than the american since the lack the belt

No I didn't bought any of the guns they seemed to be in bad shape and very worn

/ JOHAN

Garret,

404 Bullet makers:

Barnes: solids and 400 gr. H.P, some 350s still available

Woodleigh makes a number of bullets

GS Customs makes a number of bullets including a FN solid

Bridger bullets makes 404 to specs both FN solids and soon will have hollow points

Swift will soon be making 404 bullets in 2 weights, and were taking orders at SCI this year...

Kodiak makes 404 bullets

Hawk makes a number of bullets but they are very soft even in the thicker jackets

Rhino of Africa makes bullets for the 404.

TCCI makes bullets in 404 cal....

Several other companies make 404 bullets but I can't recall them off hand...Hope this is of assistence to you ..

Ken Howell made a couple, listed in his book on custom cartridges.
He did a 375 on a 2.5" case, for instance, .5236" at web, .5" at shoulder placed at 2" even, 30deg shoulder, .4277" neck for some reason.
Compare that with the 375 Dakota: .545" at wen, .529" at shoulder placed at 2.061", 30deg shoulder, .4" neck.
I bet you they're pretty close in performance.
There's also the 300 OAM from Norway, which is pretty much a 300 Win Mag, with a decent neck and about .01" bigger case down the body.
Looks like 6.5x68 cases are about half the price of jeffery cases, and you can fit more of them in a given space, so it's worth considering!

Saw a 25 Banshee a few years ago that a local shooter had built on a Mark V action.Supposedly faster than the 257 Wtby. Isn't that case "improved" or is it just necked down? Just what is the head size of this case?

[ 07-21-2003, 07:53: Message edited by: rembo ]

TNT gunshop in Regina Sask has an improved 6.5x68 that they claim has some pretty impressive ballistics.

Hi Snowman. How you doing? I believe that the improved x 68 case is what the Banshee is made on, so the 6.5 would be a 264 Banshee, I guess. There are very impressive ballistics claimd for the 25 Banshee, I'm not sure how well they would stand up to pressure testing, though. It would be interesting to see. Any idea who is doing TNT's 'smithing now? They were looking for a fellow last time I was there. - Dan

Dan I am doing fine. With the temp sitting at +34 C (93 F) its hard to concentrate on the fact that goose season opens in a little over 5 weeks and early moose in a little over 6 weeks.Tough descision to make this year for moose though. Do I leave the 340 at home and take the 9.3x64?? Whats new with you?

One that I know is the 277GS. It has been developped by Giani and Ing.Sabatti.
3678fps was one of the best velocity obtained. It prefer heavy bullets.
It has been registered at CIP standards, but it is an authentical wildcat, cartridges in fact must be fire formed. And it is a custom made only rifle.
bye

I forgot something :
it is a .270x67......
bye

All,

Z-Hat Z-Hat Custom. guns.... is offering a new wildcat based on the 8x68S case called the 350 African Express.

I guess it is opened up to 35 caliber. No other information mentioned.

Regrds,

Bob

The 350 African Express is based on the 8x68S case. Cases can also be made from 6.5x68, too. Velocites are as follows: 250 grain bullet, 3050 fps using IMR4350 and 280 grain bullet at 2600 fps using H4350. I am still working on load development, so write me if you are interested.

RobertD

Dave Tooley in the usa does severell based on the 6.5x68 and the 8x68 you can find his web site by visiting benchrest.com and looking under gunsmiths, i have two of his rifles based on this [/LIST] chambering a 7mm based on the 6.5x68 and a .338 based on the 8x68 the .338 i took to namibia this year it performed extreamly well takeing some twenty animals in a three week period i found the .338 worked well with 225gr swift a frames with ramshot magnum powder 75.3 grains

I'm wondering if any of you guys have any information on the differences between Tooley's "BooBoo" series and his "Tooley" series?

I've been trying to contact both Dave Tooley and his British agent without any luck

If not, does anybody know a valid E-mail adress to Dave Tooley?

elev.jur.

David Ryan who is friend and importer with David Tooley operates a shooting range with gun shop etc. David tooley and David Ryan are both very nice persons and is sometimes extremly busy. If you want to get hold of any of the david's send a fax. Difference between the Tooley and Boo Boo's`? If I remeber correctly, the Boo Boo is tight neck and Tooley is not.

MINSTERLEY RANGES & CLAY GROUND
The Bog, Minsterley,
Shropshire, SY5 0NJ ENGLAND.
Telephone: +44 (0)1743 791858
Fax: +44 (0)1743 790828
www.minsterleyranges.co.uk

Cheers
/ JOHAN

Yup, that's what I gather. The Boo-boo is for match use, the Tooley's are for hunting.

Thanks!



I was hoping one of them was just a 8x68 squeezed dow to .30 calibre, because I'm planning such a project myself, and now I'm looking for reliable reloading data for a .30x68.



I've been given tips to start off with mild loads for the .308 Norma Mag., but if anyone out there have any experience with the 8x68 simply squeezed down to .30 (no difference in shoulder angle), and would like to share it, I would be grateful.

How can you sleep knowing there's all that taper staring at you, laughing? If you're paying for a wildcat chamber and dies, I'd love to know a good reason not to improve it, at least a little.

sleeping pills

well, the reason i'm keeping it simple is that this is my first wildcatting project, and I try to stay within the bundaries of my knowledge and experience.
The gunsmith already has got the reamer, so that part dosent cost any extra. Only the dies will.

If I later on want more velocity, I could always improve the chambre and order new dies.

Plus, the feeding will be smooooth