The dies are custom Huntington and are marked as noted above. Any information is greatly appreciated. Also have a Wilson case trimmer with a specialty case holder for this cartridge.
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Posts: 426 | Location: Yakima, Washington, USA | Registered: 30 March 2002
The shoulder on the 25-270 ICL appears radiused like a weatherby case but not quite instead of a tapered shoulder.
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Posts: 426 | Location: Yakima, Washington, USA | Registered: 30 March 2002
Is this the same as the .25/.270 ICL Ram? According to Ackley, it is the ".270 round necked to shoot .257" bullets, and has the case blown out by firing in the ICL chamber". He doesn't give case dimensions, but the shoulder looks very sharp, and the neck is quite long-(in the picture). The picture of the case shoulder in the Ackley Handbook does NOT appear radiused to me.....
Ackley says that you can get 3450 FPS out of it with 117-grain bullets using 61 grains of old surplus H4831. He did not give barrel length....
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Yes, that's the cartridge. Should clean my glasses once in a while I guess as it does has a very sharp shoulder and long neck. What does ICL stand for? Thanks
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Posts: 426 | Location: Yakima, Washington, USA | Registered: 30 March 2002
The rifle has a 98 mauser action of unknow origin with a 26" Phifer barrel. Any thing known about Phifer? Thanks
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I believe that the ICL family of cartridges was the brain child of Vern Juenke of Saturn Gun works in Reno, Nv. I do not know if they are still in busines or not but were quite active in the sixties and seventies.
This cartridge was designed by Arnold Juenke and was first mentioned in a Santa Monica Gun & Rod Shop ad that appeared in the April, 1949 American Rifleman. ICL = Increased Capacity Load according to that advertisement.
Thanks for everyones responses. The former owner of this rifle was a long time predator control officer out of Reno, NV for the federal government and used to work partime in a local shop in Reno. Sounds like Juenke at Saturn Gun shop. His battery of rifles included the 25-270 ICL, pre-64 70, 220 Swift, T/C in 22LR, 357 and 45colt/410.
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Posts: 426 | Location: Yakima, Washington, USA | Registered: 30 March 2002
Originally posted by BuddyK-9: Yes, that's the cartridge. Should clean my glasses once in a while I guess as it does has a very sharp shoulder and long neck. What does ICL stand for? Thanks
In the Ackley book, he states that "the ICL line of cartridges (was) originated and developed by Mr. Arnold Juenke, Reno, Nev. ....The ICL line closely resembles the older Ackley line of improved cartridges. They use the minimum body taper and sharp shoulder principle to a slightly greater degree, and probably represent the maximum for these two characteristics"... but Ackley does not say what ICL stands for. At least, I did not find an explanation for that. But "increased capacity Load" sounds reasonable.
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