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10 September 2003, 06:41

Heritage Arms

New gun and cal. idea

I have been thinking about .348 wins for some time. I have a new idea a Flat nose 9,3 loaded in a .444 Marlin case. To function out of 1895 lever action. Would this work. I was thinking of a minimun taper too. I want to call it a .361 Express since the .360 express name is taken. Should I proceed or shelve it??

Aleko

[ 09-09-2003, 21:41: Message edited by: Heritage Arms ]

10 September 2003, 06:44

carcano91

Use a proven cartridge in the M 1895 instead - the 9,3 x 53 R Finnish. A number have been rechambered for it.

Carcano

10 September 2003, 09:29

MONTANAHILLBILLY

it already exists as the 375 jdj,,my Idea is to neck the 350 rem. to 9.3( for class ) and rebarrel the marlin 450 levergun,,keep the flat point for shorter c.o.a.l.,,the rim size is the same and the follower and carrier are cut for the belt already [Big Grin]

10 September 2003, 10:13

Orion 1

quote:
Originally posted by carcano91:
Use a proven cartridge in the M 1895 instead - the 9,3 x 53 R Finnish. A number have been rechambered for it.

Carcano

Aleko, do it. If we all follow Crapcano's lead, nothing new would ever be developed, because what we have now is already "proven".

What an idiot.

10 September 2003, 10:50

carcano91

I should probably write "rebored" (though I do not know the dimensions of the M 1895 musket barrel by heart). The great advantage of the 9,3x53 R is that almost nothing has to be altered (magazine, breech face); it is just a neck-up of the cartridge for which the M 1895 was already factory chambered.

Carcano

10 September 2003, 14:23

jnrifleworks

There is a great feeling you will have when you take the completed rifle to your shooting spot for the first shot. When your idea goes bang, it is all worth it. I think you should try all the wild ideas you have money for. Carefull, it can be very addictive. I like the idea by the way.

11 September 2003, 04:19

Heritage Arms

I am looking for an 1895 Marlin now in .444. I have the barrel and bullets are under production

Aleko

11 September 2003, 04:39

Heritage Arms

Here is some preliminary data

9,3 x 53 R has a 255 mega at 2300 fps out of a 24 " barrel

9,3x57 mm has a 255 mega at 2250 fps out of a 24" barrel

.444 Marlin has a 265 Flat point out of a 22" barrel at 2300

So I am thinking this is about the max performance we should see out of the 9,3x.444 about 2100 to 2200 with a custom 280 grs bullet out of a 22" barrel

I was thinking about using a gain twist barrel to keep pressures lower.

Ideas??

Thanks, Aleko

13 September 2003, 02:35

LoneEagle

Hillbilly,

The cartridge you want has already been designed.
http://shootersforum.com/showthread...=beartooth+.375

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=3053
Sean

14 September 2003, 07:32

Biathlonman

JD Jones has also already done this also. He of course calls it the 9.3 JDJ .444 necked down. I have some data if you are interested, just drop me a PM.