does anyone have any info. I was thinking of building one. A friend of mine has one it shots real good alot of fun.he shoots a 190 gr. bullet out of it.

oklasteeler,

It was referred to as the .30 Apache at one time. The originator is unknown but the name is attributed to Joe Apache since he was most closely associated with it.

Designed in the 1980's, it was used predominantly for Metallic Silhouettes. It is simply the .223 Rem. case necked up to accept the .30 caliber bullets.

From COTW:

190 gr. / H-335 28 gr. / 2100 fps. / 1868 ft.lbs.

Regards.

thanks DZ