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Is anyone aware of any wildcats built on the .35 Remington
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Posts: 407 | Location: middle Tennessee | Registered: 24 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Wildcat Crazy:

There was a 30SFG. It was a 35 necked down to 308. If I recall it had a 30d shoulder that was pushed back a bit. It was designed as a Hunter Class benchrest cartridge. The capacity of the case was 45 grains of water. If you want more info. I can probably give you the email of the gunsmith who has the reamer.

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Thanks,knobmtn,it's hard to believe a cartridge could be in continous production for 96 years without spawning a wildcat or two.

I had been thinking about a .25 caliber to build on a Model 336 Marlin cal..35 Remington by only replacing the barrel.

By short chambering with a .256 Newton reamer, I can ream a perfect chamber for a wildcat .25 on the full length .35 Rem. case.I could shorten the .256 Newton die by about .534
to form and load cases.

Case capacity should be around 46 grs.of water,about the same as the 250 Savage or the 25/35 AI.

No action work required only a barrel change.

Has it been done?

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The cartridge is somewhat unique in case head dimension and has had little diversity in adaptation by arms manufacturers beyond Marlin. Cases for the .35 can be formed from the -06 case with some effort even though it is of slightly smaller dimension(case head).

Ken Howell's blue book shows a number of wildcats based on the .30/.32 Rem case which is a bit smaller than the .35, but I did not find any reference to any .35 Rem based 'cats.

My question for you is, if it duplicates the case capacity of the 25-35 AI or .250 Savage, er, well, Why go to the trouble and expense? There would be some novelty I suppose in having a unique reamer set. The 25-35 does have the same head dimension as the 30-30 however, and Ackley was quite pleased with his Improved version. If you want to make a two shooter out of a levergun and load 100 gr. Spitzers(1 in the barrel, 1 in the mag) it will duplicate the factory loads for the .257 Bob/.250 Savage, or close enough anyway. If your platform is not a levergun, just go with the .250 Savage and be done with it. IMO the goal of widcating is to fill a niche without busting the bank or putting yourself an odd position regarding brass supply or bolt modifications, and on and on and on...
 
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I think it's a neat idea!!
I bought a set of used 256 dies for $10 .... but then I built a 256. I'd say build that rifle, it would be no more trouble then building a 25/35 imp, which I already have, and your idea is certainly something new.
 
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There is a very good chance that the 250-3000 will cycle through the Marlin. People have reamed Marlin 35 Rems to 358 with no other changes. There is an article posted on the web somewhere about it. You might find it with a search.

Of course if you just want something different....
 
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Well,I guess,it's back to the old drawing board unless I decide to build the rifle in .264 caliber[6.5mm].My other figures are correct but at this time I have no desire to build a 6.5mm on a case that small.

I remembered,yesterday evening that the .256 Newton was a 6.5 instead of a .25 caliber.While looking at the reamer spec.sheet,I only noted the dimensions I needed to calculate the length,I could use with the .35 Rem. head dia.

On the other hand,I do have a 6.5mm barrel and the case capacity would be about a 12 percent increase over the
6.5JDJ.

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If you check out the August issue of Guns&Ammo, you will find an interesting article about the 30 Remington case.
It's called the 6.8 SPC. A few in the military would like to have the U.S. adopt this round.
The round is 6.8x43mm, (6.8mm is the .277 used in the 270 Win.) to be used in the M-16.
The article is on page 72.
Maybe were going to see tons and tons of surplus .223 in the future.

Roger QSL
 
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WC--I like the idea of a 6.5-.35 Rem myself on a Marlin platform. I have a couple of extra .35s Marlins as I like the caliber a lot for our Cannon Co. whitetails. I also like the 6.5mm because of its high sectional density and low recoil with game bullets. How would a 6.5-.35Rem compare with the venerable 6.5x54 MS? I don't know what the bullet situation would be, but a 129g 6.5 roundnose would be a good deer bullet imo. We should get together at Joe's sometime to discuss this project. Plateau Hunter
 
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When I was thinking about my 219 Imp. Zipper (which has gotten off the ground yet), I saw a thread (maybe yours) what mentioned rechambering a 35Rem. to 358Win. and keeping the pressures down for the Marlin action. If a 358win. will feed and function through a 336 Marlin then anything else on that case should to. How about a 250/3000 or maybe a 25 Souper(25/08). Wouldn't that be slick? Pedro
 
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The proposed 6.5/.35 Rem.would be very close to the 6.5x50
Jap.I have used .35 Rem. brass to make 6.5 Jap cases,they were a bit short in the neck but worked OK.

Even though the .256 Newton has a longer neck,the 6.5/.35 Rem. is slightly larger in diameter at both the base and shoulder.The .256 Newton has about 2 1/2 degrees sharper angle than the 6.5 Jap so case capacity should be about the same.Capacity should be about 47 grs of water.

If the 6.5/.35 Rem.was to be used as more than a two shot in the Marlin,bullets of the proper shape might pose a problem.Bullets over 1 in. long will be seated below the neck to meet the OAL cartridge length to function in a Marlin Model 336.

The Norma 6.5 Jap shoots a 156 gr.bullet at about 2070 fps
and a 139gr.bullet at 2430 fps,pressure is unknown.

Probably any load that is safe in a Contender would be safe in a Marlin Model 336.

The Saami pressure for the .35 Rem.is 35,000,the pressure for the .356 Win.is 52,000,both are chambered on a variant of the 336 action.

The project needs a bit more planning.

WC
 
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