Looking for a springer that will produce enough accuracy and power to take pigeons out to 100 yards or so.

Is there such an animal?

Been away from the airgun game for a long time now.

You're better off with a .22 rimfire for those distances, an HMR actually would probably be just the ticket.

There are a few poweful air rifles on the market but the biggest and most powerful, in .22/.25 I mean rather than the Quackenbush jobs, tops out at around 70-80 ft/lbs, need special bullet type pellets and have such a low shot count that you need a dive bottle in the boot of the car wherever you go.

Oh, and they are amazingly loud for the power level.

Bait'em and get closer . Tony

forget it with a springer- there are NONE with that capability. a high end PCP like m Daystate Air Ranger 80 will do it- it shoots 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards but you must know the EXACT HOLDOVER AT THAT RANGE!

Pop, you might find one that will have the intrinsic accuracy and power to accomplish the task, but being a springer, it will be difficult to extract that accuracy in the field.
I just bought a Benjamin Marauder in .25, and as Jerry says, the PCPs are much more willing to deliver the necessary accuracy for this application, assuming you have your holdovers written down.

A long barreled 22rf of 27 inchs or more with standard vel ammo is just as quite or more so.

Has way less hold over less effective by the wind and plenty of power.

I have been shooting a Beeman RX1 in .177cal with a Bushnell 3200 10X Mill Dot using it for trigger time practice and have been shooting 75 yards with it at targets and shoots 1.88" to 1.6" with the basic Crossman Premiers and have taken 11 crows with it from 70-90 yards... the first one I hit with it I thought it was a fluke but kept on trying and kept hitting them so it can be done but need a bigger springer I am shooting 1180fps with the Crossman Premiers the Beeman RX1 comes in .177,.20 and .22… I would make sure to invest the money in to a good gun the other one I would like to try at longer range is Theoben Cromagnum .22

I am able to connect with ground squirrels at 70 yards with repeatable results. They are smaller than your target. Of course my springer is sighted in for that distance, and the wind must be measured and accounted for. It hits hard enough to spin em over in a one revolution somersault sometimes! Its a vintage RWS Diana 45. Its over 22 years old and has a recoil like a .22 lr.
I'm sure there are new springers that if set up properly would be able to do what your asking, but i cant offer you which ones. Things have come along way in the air rifle world in the last 22 years!!
No disrespect intended but if they say it cant be done its because they haven't done it or cant do it. What's the worst that can happen? You get a new air rifle that only kills birds at 90 yards??

After looking back at the previous posts i see the guys point that a PCP would be easier and a more likely option. I wont disagree on that point, however you asked if it can be done with a Springer, i can only draw on my experience that yes, it can be done.
Looking through my shooting log, i have knocked Starlings @(flying rats) off the power lines at confirmed distances of 81and 93 yards. That one shot is only 21 feet short of your goal, if the bird had been 21 feet further would i have hit it? Honestly i have no idea, but when i get the chance to try again i certainly will.
Just getcha a good rifle and sling some lead, whats it gonna hurt, and are you sure the birds you want to hit are actually 100 yards away. Likely they are closer than you think.

Perhaps you could use a British PIAT !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAT

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Originally posted by oneshotonly:
After looking back at the previous posts i see the guys point that a PCP would be easier and a more likely option. I wont disagree on that point, however you asked if it can be done with a Springer, i can only draw on my experience that yes, it can be done.
Looking through my shooting log, i have knocked Starlings @(flying rats) off the power lines at confirmed distances of 81and 93 yards. That one shot is only 21 feet short of your goal, if the bird had been 21 feet further would i have hit it? Honestly i have no idea, but when i get the chance to try again i certainly will.
Just getcha a good rifle and sling some lead, whats it gonna hurt, and are you sure the birds you want to hit are actually 100 yards away. Likely they are closer than you think.

POP lives in Wyoming, where the wind almost never stops blowing. I wager a pellet would be off by 20 or more yards at 100yds.

What you need is a suppressed .22LR.

George

Cant argue with a suppressed .22

AT 100 yards, the trajectory of any springer will resemble that of a mortar. check out Chairgun Pro( available as a free download from Hawke Optics). plug in the velocity( usually some pie in the sky number dreamed up by the manufacturer and never obtainable in real life), caliber and pellet weight and you will see what i mean- and the numbers shown assume NO CROSSWIND! i think the pellet drop at 100 yards will surprise you( like maybe 2-3 feet or more). even magnum springers will be hard pressed to achieve a muzzle velocity of 825fps using ANY pellet heavy enough to hunt with-and the super light alloy pellets used to achieve the claimed muzzle velocity are absolutely WORTHLESS to hunt with. ANY breeze blows them all over the place and even then, i never found a single one that travelled at the rifle's claimed muzzle velocity. it's the main reason i sold all my springers and moved to PCP's. a springer is essentially made for shooting at ranges under 50-60 yards. can you kill stuff further out- absolutely- iF YOU ARE A TERRIFIC SHOT AND HAVE IDEAL CONDITIONS.