LOL, wait untill your married, it'll be even harder to convince her

Get it now, that way in the divorce later it was purchased before you were married.

Well I guess you are going to set the standards for the relationship right here and now.
Personally if I had to convince a girlfriend or a purchase I could afford and wanted I would be in the market for a new girl..
Now if you are on a joint account, or you cannot afford it then it is a non issue.

But if it is about control, then run now, and run far.

If there is money in the bank, a roof over your heads, food in the fridge, a car in the driveway, and clothes on your back you shouldn't have to ask. Just do it and don't explain, if you don't have those thing's the gun is unimportant or maybe you'll just have to lie and hide it.

what makes the MK4 a better/ more desirable gun than the airwolf....the fancier new electronics....as I read the website it implys that it may be very quiet also.

Are these primarily used for hunting or targets, I can't really tell and have very little experience with real airguns, just bb/pellet guns as a kid.

-phil

After being married for 28 years to a great women. If she would have stated to tell me what to buy before we were married we wouldn't be to day.

Sounds like time to get a new girlfriend unless you are a spend thirft and don't know how to handle your money If you can't pay cash you most likely cant afford it and maybe you should listen to her.

Of course then I cashed out a new car at 21 and had enough for a down payment on a house 3 years later.

How about grow a set of balls and buy what you want. Girlfriends aren't really way up on the pecking order and it only gets worse when you get married. They are in fact quite replacable.

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How about grow a set of balls and buy what you want. Girlfriends aren't really way up on the pecking order and it only gets worse when you get married. They are in fact quite replacable.

+1 If you are this pussywhipped now, wait until you get married. DUMP HER Life's too short to put up with that kind of crap.

does she have any interest in shooting? this might be a good introduction or an enjoyable addition. air rifles are fun, and i've had several non-shooters "thaw" their points of view after an afternoon's plinking

If I hadn't spent loads on toys recently I'd probably get one.
The MK4 is the first PCP that REALLY feels and handles beautifully balanced like a proper rifle.
The MK3 is great but the 4 is way nicer.
The Wolf is not much better balanced than a Theoben or any other bottle gun.
If I'm out walking I still take my BSA Supersport carbine break barrel and if I'm sitting in one place I'll use my S10.

What caliber is more popular for hunting? I wouls assume a 22 or 25 would be, but I guess it depends on what your are after.

I have used some cheaper .177 RWS and Gamo "springers" to shoot cottontail rabbits and jackrabits and even seen one work very well on a red fox at about 20 feet. The .177 worked well for these smaller animals, but are you able to hunt larger animals with an airgun?

Just curious....

-phil

Here if you don't have the gun registered, you're limited to 12fpe, 600fps in 22 or round 800fps in 177. You can spit a .25 faster than a 12lb gun will shoot it.
So 177 has a much flatter trajectory useful to 45y, the 22 is dropping like a rock by that range. So it's real hard to judge your range and hold over well enough for good hunting.

But with a sensible gun in .22 Jack Rabbits out to 60y are no prob, even a good body shot will get 'em.

With the Big Bores .30 and UP!!! You have Serious power and can hunt most anything. I personally wouldn't recommend one for DG in Africa. But some people will go after buffalo carrying nothing more than a Bow and Arrow. So I'm sure there are guys doing it.

Ahhh...now the regulated thing with 12fpe makes a whole lot more sense!

Where I am thinking of using an airgun as opposed to a rimfire is close to town and in fairly dense alders....long shots are gonna be 20 yards. I have also hunted the area with a bow and arrow, but that is a little too sporting if you are actually trying to get something to eat.

decisions, decisions...unfortunatley the cheapskate in me will probably win and I will get a Gamo or a made in china beeman springer.

-phil

Gamo would be the better choice.
Or the "Talon" (Stealth) guns. Made in the USA.
And not TOO expensive.

http://www.airforceairguns.com/

You threaten her with SEX and More Sex !. Morning Noon and Night 7/24 , because You don't have any other hobbies !.

At first she may think it's to good to be true

provided you keep your end up that is !.

After 3 days She'll buy it for ya mate !. If she can walk that is ?.

Then inform you now that you've gotten your hobbie toy thingie , play with that for most of the week !. Welcome to married life ! after a few years you'll understand fully !!.

They always say they want it , until you really give it to them , then they start changing their minds !.

Does that help ?.

I want another Air Arms TX !. I Never have had an air rifle shoot everything inside a dime at 50 yd. before until I bought that Lefty TX200 . Oh how the squirrels tumble off the neighbors walls !. An she can't figure out what's killing them cute little furry things .

Flea infected Bubonic plague diseased carrying bushy tailed ground rats !.
They should have stayed in the Dam City where the dip shits belonged !.

I mailed them a local alert on infected captured and tested squirrels . I now wonder if their literate ??.

Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ...

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SEX and More Sex !. Morning Noon and Night 7/24

It's only an airgun ... now for a mint '67 Camaro 396 in Black ... I may start getting frisky

Now if my husband said he wanted that I would buy it for his birthday or Christmas. Or he would get it for me for my birthday or Christmas and borrow it. He does that alot with hunting weapons and gear! Doesn't bother me a bit and yes, I do have a single sister!

I call her my girlfriend but we've been together for way over 20 years. And putting up with me for that long makes her a Saint.

Just go and buy it....it's time to show her how strong your your pimp hand is!

I have a Mk3 and an Airwolf. Preparing to sell the Wolf as I like my Mk 3 so much better. Mk 3 provides a heavenly, blissful shooting experience. Pigeons at 65 yards in still air are no problem with .177 JSB Heavies. I can head shoot them at 40 yards easy as pie.

If the Mk 4 is that much better I'd say you should make the buy and never look back.

I dont know how much it costs ..but...its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission..

£820 is the best we've seen them. Any useful scope here is at least £250, but for a MK4 you'd want something real nice, and a case £80.

So by the time you get out shooting it's around £1100. I guess that's near $2500

If you don't have a bipod that's £100 and a divers bottle another £200

Where are we now ... $3000

If I replace my BSA Supersport .177 carbine.
I'd actually get an Air Arms 410 carbine.

because if you're really drunk, you can mistake it for a Weatherby.
and you dont need an excuse for a Weatherby

20 years and still not married?????? You don't need permission for an air gun....you need to re-evaluate your position....Not to make too small a point.

If you have to ask "permission" of your "girlfriend" and "permission" on an open forum to do anything...maybe you shouldn't be allowed to even look at a dangerous weapon...of any kind.

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20 years and still not married?????? You don't need permission for an air gun....you need to re-evaluate your position

Never been married never will be, no kids, no religion ... no problems.

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do you have a link for these guns?

http://www.daystate.com/

We have noticed some problems with new MK4s.
With power regulation and a few other things, easy to get sorted over here.

But I don't know how simple it would be to get a new "Motherboard" or have the software reinstalled, when you live in Aims Iowa or Elbow Saskatchewan.

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Buy 2 one for you one for her and take her shooting. A little frendily competition may be all it takes.

Scratch that idea buy her a BIG DIAMOND RING she wont notice your puny air rifle.