I was wondering if you all consider No. 9 to be an "Oil". All these characters mention using oil in their barrels and many complain of the first shot going wild.
Could it be the residue??? I've never had that problem and only leave No 9 soaking in my barrels.

As far as I'm concerned Hoppe's no 9 is a solvent, I never leave anything soaking in my barrels, a pass with a light oli after cleaning then a pass with a dry patch leaves enough residue to prevent rust. Yes the first shot on a clean barrel is usually7 a flier

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Originally posted by JAL:
I was wondering if you all consider No. 9 to be an "Oil". All these characters mention using oil in their barrels and many complain of the first shot going wild.
Could it be the residue??? I've never had that problem and only leave No 9 soaking in my barrels.

Years ago, the way Hoppe's No. 9 was formulated, it was one of the best rust preventatives one could use. But that has changed apparently, as the last time the NRA tested it, along with a number of other solvents/preservatives, it didn't work nearly as well as it had before.

I now use Birchwood-Casey SHEATH exclusively to prevent rust in and on firearms. After it dries, it has no effect on POI at all.......

Hoppe's No. 9 is also a relatively wimpy solvent, so about all it is good for today is to make the guns and storage facilities smell as they should! I still keep some around for this purpose.

#9 definately leaves a residue...and I would not consider it an "oil" as to me that would imply some lubricating properties...dried (cured?) #9 has none IMO.

As a rust prevenative...I haven't tested it formally but it doesn't protect my duck hunting gun for crap!

Yes, I wouldn't trust it for rust on the outside. The labels still reckon it's ok in bores, even long term if applied properly.
G96 complete gun treatment, triple action seems ok on the outside. (And smells better than Hoppe's )

the perfume of the gun world

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Originally posted by butchloc:
the perfume of the gun world

Darn right.....and if women had their shit together they'd dab a bit behind each ear to get us to like them!!!!

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Originally posted by butchloc:
the perfume of the gun world

Yeah, locally the babes put it behind their ears because they know what works! I'm still trying to figure out how to mix it with bourbon --

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Originally posted by El Deguello:
I now use Birchwood-Casey SHEATH exclusively to prevent rust in and on firearms. After it dries, it has no effect on POI at all.......


WELL I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world that doesn't have the first shot head bush


Hoppe's No. 9 is also a relatively wimpy solvent, so about all it is good for today is to make the guns and storage facilities smell as they should! I still keep some around for this purpose.

I wouldn't sell Hoppes short, after leaving it in a barrel for a few days I'm often supprised how much copper comes out.

I got stuck once with nothing else for the outside during a shift and it went OK except where my daughters boyfriend borrowed a rifle while I was away and left a rusty thumbprint on my pristine barrel.
He only had a Brno so she dumped him and married someone else.

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Originally posted by JAL:

I got stuck once with nothing else for the outside during a shift and it went OK except where my daughters boyfriend borrowed a rifle while I was away and left a rusty thumbprint on my pristine barrel.

I thought there for a moment you were going to say he mysteriously disappeared.

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Originally posted by JAL:

I wouldn't sell Hoppes short, after leaving it in a barrel for a few days I'm often supprised how much copper comes out.

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How true! I still have 3 different gallon cans+ of three different Hoppe's formulations, pre-1971, the similar one that replaced it but had no benzene, and the latest. All three are rather good solvents, depending on what one is trying to dissolve.

-Though not rapidly effective on copper or brass, Hoppe's does work well on them if left in the bore a few days.

-It is particularly effective at dissolving the plastic powder/shot-wad residue left in shotgun bores.

-Also, oddly enough, it is one of the few solvents which really works well at dissolving ghe nasty gum left on plastic cartridge boxes when a person peels off one of the "stick-on" labels.

-Is is very adapt at instantly melting away supposedly "permanent" magic-marker writing. (Really useful when re-labelling a plastic cartridge box.)

-On top of all that, it is really useful as a solvent to "neutralize" residues left by ammonia-based bore cleaners, without setting up any steel-etching chemical reactions.

So, it is the one solvent/gun cleaner, that my shop is NEVER without. Too many uses to discard.


P.S. Really agree with whoever suggested G-96 "Gun Treatment" spray for the entire exterior of guns, both wood and metal. And of course, with ammonia-base solvents for rapid brass/copper removal.

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I was wondering if you all consider No. 9 to be an "Oil".

With all of the new and better stuff on the market these days, Good Ol' Hoppe's No. 9 is, for me, more served as an airfreshner in hunting camp or in the reloading room.

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Originally posted by 577NitroExpress:

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I was wondering if you all consider No. 9 to be an "Oil".

With all of the new and better stuff on the market these days, Good Ol' Hoppe's No. 9 is, for me, more served as an airfreshner in hunting camp or in the reloading room.

Don't they sell those dangly thingies you hang from your rear view mirror in the Hoppe's #9 fragrance? If not, I think I have finally found a way to make millions.

Its okay for bore cleaning, assuming the bore isn’t too dirty, or you have a lot of time to let it sit, but I wouldn’t use Hoppe’s No.9 for lubricating parts or protective oil.

I had a friend I took bird hunting once a year. That was the only hunting he did. After the hunt, he cleaned his pump shotgun with Hoppe’s No.9 and wiped it down with a rag soaked in No.9, leaving a thick coating on the gun and most of the internal parts. Each year I noticed the gun got progressively stickier and gooier until after about 5yrs it had so much residue built up that functioning was difficult. It did smell good though!

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Originally posted by Chris01:
Its okay for bore cleaning, assuming the bore isn’t too dirty, or you have a lot of time to let it sit, but I wouldn’t use Hoppe’s No.9 for lubricating parts or protective oil.

I had a friend I took bird hunting once a year. That was the only hunting he did. After the hunt, he cleaned his pump shotgun with Hoppe’s No.9 and wiped it down with a rag soaked in No.9, leaving a thick coating on the gun and most of the internal parts. Each year I noticed the gun got progressively stickier and gooier until after about 5yrs it had so much residue built up that functioning was difficult. It did smell good though!

Hard to disagree with that. After a few years of alternate soaking with more applications, drying, dust gathering, it does make a nice hard varnish........grin....