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I'm trying an alternative, quicker, bore cleaning method. Usually I'm fairly anal re bore cleaning each time after rifle use, using KG1 and / or KG12 with nylon brush scrubbing and overnight soaking to remove all the carbon and copper fouling I can. Probably not getting down to clean metal but possibly close. Then a wipe through with KG4 oil and into the gun safe until next time. At moments this year I've been pressed for time so adopted another ( temporary ? ) method. With a fouled rifle I've run two or three dry patches through to remove carbon fouling. I follow this with a snug patch ( not tight ) saturated with CLP, run this through the bore several times for thorough coating then put the rifle into the gun safe barrel down. Next time the rifle comes out I run two dry patches through to dry off the CLP then go and use the rifle. With one rifle particularly I've subjected to this cleaning routine several times now there doesn't seem to be any change at all in accuracy or any other performance indicator so the method seems it's working fine. I realise in time I may need a more thorough cleaning if carbon / if the bore accumulates carbon or copper but so far I like the time this method saves me.  imagehostHunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | ||
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If this works for you, stick to it. Different rifles foul differently, I am sure yiu are aware of this. | |||
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Perfectly clean barrels are NOT the ideal situation for hunting rifles. There is a sweet spot between squeaky clean and fouled to the point where accuracy fails. Too much cleaning blurs the ideal condition. In my opinion/experience you clean a gun, site it in, develop a load, then hunt with it. A CLP patch when hunt is over. If it gets wet/dirt dry patch and lightly oiled patch. You may go years doing nothing else for the inside of the barrel. Of course, opinions and experience varies. NRA Benefactor Member US Navy Veteran | |||
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From experience, I agree. Also, as Saeed says above, different rifles foul differently. Again, my experience, fouling affects accuracy more in some barrels than others and is one reason why these days I tend to favour Stainless Steel barrels. My experience is that SS fouls slower and even with some fouling tends to hold accuracy longer. Then when thorough cleaning become necessary SS cleans faster and more easily. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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I’d venture a guess that competitive BR shooters clean more often than most. Yet there’s a divide here too. Some 30BR score shooters are known to resist cleaning for MANY rounds fired. These are guys that use coated bullets, and I know one guy whose motto is “I clean my rifle once a year, whether it needs it, or not”. That rifle probably sees a minimum of 2500 rounds a year. Group shooters, shooting a 6ppc, however, normally clean after every target, that’s 6-15 rounds. And I agree with Saeed, as I’ve had many BR barrels, and they definitely don’t all want the same thing. | |||
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The divide is the distance and accuracy required. 100 or 200 yards compared to 800-1000 yards. In the former 0.001" can win or lose. A 5" group can win a 1000 yard match. NRA Benefactor Member US Navy Veteran | |||
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Hmm, I only clean rifle barrels once a year. Of course, most of them only get less than 25 rounds a year thru them: 4-6 confirm zero prior to a hunt ~ 15 of practice with that particular rifle prior to the hunt. less than 5 on a hunt Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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