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OK i know there's better cleaning stuff out there, but I still gotta keep a bottle around to sniff.   | ||
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Put a wick in an open bottle on the shelf, a sportsman's airwick!!  | |||
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Agreed, but it is a sad imitation of the aroma of the original #9. I'll take my chances with the carcinogens, just bring it back.  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Anyone know what the old (original) stuff's recipe was? What was taken out to make it MSDS safe? Even with the current stuff one whiff and I'm thinking of a kid I once knew with his single shot Steven 12 ga, blue Peters shells and a beagle hot on a cottontail's trail.  | |||
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The original "Ode de Gun." If you don't like this smell you ain't a real shooter! This formula came from Hatcher's Notebook and the amounts are rounded from the original formula to make 1 quart. Any resemblance to the current "environmentally correct" No. 9 is accidental. Original component Notes Ammonium oleate (CAS#544-60-5) 5.0 oz (also known as ammonium soap) Could substitute lanolin but this would sacrifice its mild copper removal qualities Amyl Acetate (CAS#544-60-5) 8.5 oz ("banana oil") Nitro-benzene 2.0 oz (the racing fuel additive) K1 Kerosene 8.5 oz Neutral Saponifiable Oil 8 oz (Not identified, probably sperm oil, but ATF could be substituted Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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The nitrobenzene in the original Hoppe's #9 was the major contributor to the odor we love. It is a carcinogen and therein is the problem. Edited to add: BTW: Nitromethane is added to gas to make fuel for dragster engines ... not nitrobenzene. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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It's a cruel world in which we live. ______________________________ Well, they really aren't debates... more like horse and pony shows... without the pony... just the whores. 1955, Top tax rate, 92%... unemployment, 4%. "Beware of the Free Market. There are only two ways you can make that work. Either you bring the world's standard of living up to match ours, or lower ours to meet their's. You know which way it will go." by My Great Grandfather, 1960 Protection for Monsanto is Persecution of Farmers. | |||
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An old timer once told me the ideal perfume would be a cross between Hoppe's #9 and fired paper shotshells. I need a cigarette. | |||
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HI ALL...Bruno shooters USED to sell Hoope's #9 ORIGINAL formula..they added back in the nitro-benzene...just checked their website....and I DO NOT see that original formula there.....!!!??? http://www.brunoshooters.com | |||
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The smell we all love was made by banana oil. I emailed Hoppes a few years back with the question of the unique smell. That was their reply. NRA LIFE MEMBER You can trust the government. Look how well they took care of the American Indian... | |||
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As a Ph.D. chemist who has had the opportunity to smell both (nitrobenzene and amyl acetate which is banana oil) from bottles of known reagent materials ... believe me, the odor we remember is nitrobenzene. Were it not, old and new Hoppe's #9 would smell the same. Besides ... does Hoppe's #9 smell like bananas to you? Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Banana oil does not have the scent of banana skins. I don't know why, ask a container of banana oil. I just printed the answer that I got from Hoppes. Since they make it, I would think they would know. NRA LIFE MEMBER You can trust the government. Look how well they took care of the American Indian... | |||
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