CMS Christmas Newsletter 2022

20 January 2023, 19:28

Saeed

CMS Christmas Newsletter 2022 - image heavy!

I took up the argument because an individual running a successful organization, who has benefitted from AR members for years, couldn’t stand the criticism he got because of his very own stupid actions.

He didn’t keep quiet, he came here and accused everyone else of criticizing him, and that is why he will no longer come on AR!

Did you really expect me to keep quiet about it?

21 January 2023, 00:49

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Lhook7:
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Originally posted by nhoro:
I've lost interest in trying to post pictures or videos on this forum - too annoying. My youngest son took a 45" buff in Dande East with CMS with a double rifle at 20 yards (there's a hunt report somewhere with pics, along with another buff and ele in Dande North). We returned with CMS and he took leopard, croc, hippo and sable in Dande North. Just booked my 3rd trip with CMS for 2024 (ele and buff). I consider CMS the top outfitter in Zimbabwe. As for the blacked-out faces, I can't blame them. Too many people have fallen victim to the social media mafia, and if they wish to expose themselves to that, great - but I commend CMS for not exposing them - they need to do that themselves ....

Agreed, I’m glad to see them take the high road and not get sucked into this mean spirited childishness.

I agree with you.

Just see who started it!

Let's see who started the shit storm after Buzz posted his Christmas letter. Looks like the very first post after Buzz posted the letter is this one:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...381046272#1381046272

21 January 2023, 00:57

Todd Williams

I also notice when the Duckworth's posted their Christmas letter here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...731010372#7731010372

Showing a a client with a lion and another with a buffalo, both with faces blurred, Saeed's comment was this:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...941010372#2941010372

21 January 2023, 03:18

eagle27

quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I also notice when the Duckworth's posted their Christmas letter here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...731010372#7731010372[/url

Showing a a client with a lion and another with a buffalo, both with faces blurred, Saeed's comment was this:

[url=https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6321043/m/7731010372?r=2941010372#2941010372]http://forums.accuratereloadin...941010372#2941010372

There was only the one hunters, the one with the lion, whose face was blacked out, the buff hunter looks like a light reflection issue in the photo.

I understand Saeeds comments were based on all the hunters faces in every photo blacked out in the CMS Xmas letter, and that's entirely different to just the one in the Duckworth letter which was likely respecting that one clients wishes.
Buzz admitted that CMS arbitrarily blacked out all hunter's faces and that is what Saeed took issue over. If I had been one of those hunters I would be highly pissed off for that to happen.
I have no shame or misgivings of being a hunter and killing animals and have no wish to hide behind blurred or blacked out images.

21 January 2023, 03:57

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I also notice when the Duckworth's posted their Christmas letter here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...731010372#7731010372[/url

Showing a a client with a lion and another with a buffalo, both with faces blurred, Saeed's comment was this:

[url=https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6321043/m/7731010372?r=2941010372#2941010372]http://forums.accuratereloadin...941010372#2941010372

There was only the one hunters, the one with the lion, whose face was blacked out, the buff hunter looks like a light reflection issue in the photo.

I understand Saeeds comments were based on all the hunters faces in every photo blacked out in the CMS Xmas letter, and that's entirely different to just the one in the Duckworth letter which was likely respecting that one clients wishes.
Buzz admitted that CMS arbitrarily blacked out all hunter's faces and that is what Saeed took issue over. If I had been one of those hunters I would be highly pissed off for that to happen.
I have no shame or misgivings of being a hunter and killing animals and have no wish to hide behind blurred or blacked out images.

Good lad

21 January 2023, 04:55

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I also notice when the Duckworth's posted their Christmas letter here:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...731010372#7731010372[/url

Showing a a client with a lion and another with a buffalo, both with faces blurred, Saeed's comment was this:

[url=https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6321043/m/7731010372?r=2941010372#2941010372]http://forums.accuratereloadin...941010372#2941010372

There was only the one hunters, the one with the lion, whose face was blacked out, the buff hunter looks like a light reflection issue in the photo.

I understand Saeeds comments were based on all the hunters faces in every photo blacked out in the CMS Xmas letter, and that's entirely different to just the one in the Duckworth letter which was likely respecting that one clients wishes.
Buzz admitted that CMS arbitrarily blacked out all hunter's faces and that is what Saeed took issue over. If I had been one of those hunters I would be highly pissed off for that to happen.
I have no shame or misgivings of being a hunter and killing animals and have no wish to hide behind blurred or blacked out images.

Trying to explain logic and common sense to Todd is pointless.

He has proven that here many times!

21 January 2023, 05:22

MJines

Good to hear all these folks booked to hunt with CMS for the next several years. Going to be a bunch of happy hunters experiencing some amazing hunts.

21 January 2023, 05:36

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Good to hear all these folks booked to hunt with CMS for the next several years. Going to be a bunch of happy hunters experiencing some amazing hunts.

And I wish them all the best of luck.

And CMS too.

This sad episode would have died a natural death if Buzz came back and apologized!

But all he did was put the blame on AR and it’s members for his own unacceptable policies and ran away!

21 January 2023, 05:42

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
And I wish them all the best of luck.

And CMS too.

21 January 2023, 06:34

Michael Robinson

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:

And I wish them all the best of luck.

And CMS too.

This sad episode would have died a natural death if Buzz came back and apologized!

But all he did was put the blame on AR and it’s members for his own unacceptable policies and ran away!

21 January 2023, 08:56

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:

And I wish them all the best of luck.

And CMS too.

22 January 2023, 13:48

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Good to hear all these folks booked to hunt with CMS for the next several years. Going to be a bunch of happy hunters experiencing some amazing hunts.

And I wish them all the best of luck.

And CMS too.

This sad episode would have died a natural death if Buzz came back and apologized!

But all he did was put the blame on AR and it’s members for his own unacceptable policies and ran away!

Those who cannot stand criticism better go on websites where they pay to be protected.

23 January 2023, 19:23

Bwana338

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Here's more on the above-mentioned "accommodation" - which I refunded immediately when it became clear to me what was and had been going on.

I was not impressed by this snide response. Needless to say, I was not "acknowledged" in the newsletter in the manner promised.

No knock meant here on Charmain at all, BTW. I am sure she was just following orders.

We found Charmain to be a very charming person.

__________________________________

On Sep 23, 2022, at 10:50 AM, CMS <admin1@cmsafaris.com> wrote:

Hi Mike

Just recevied a transfer from you for $928. Many thanks for the kind donation to DAPU. You will be acknowledged on the newsletter that goes out to all donors and past hunters at the end of the year.

Hope you and Lynn are well

All the best

Charmain

___________________________________________

From: Michael Robinson <xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 2:14 AM
To: CMS
Subject: RE: Final Invoice

Thank you, Charmain, for acknowledging receipt.

I would donate as much tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, and the next day and the next, if I could know it would do any good.

I never saw a soul combatting poachers while I was hunting with CMS last June.

Only the tracks of harassed and in two instances, snare-maimed bulls, that we were tracking.

I know it is a hard job, and I do not mean to make light of it.

I hope these funds permit CMS to do it better.

Sincerely,

Mike
__________________________________________

good morning Michael,

As i have mentioned earlier CMS has e-mailed out the final information for DAPU and CMS.

If you have or if you did not receive it, i will forward the e mail to you. Or if you you like a paper form i will print and mail it to you. Your donation was listed with the group of individuals who provided some support for DAPU.

16 February 2023, 21:54

bwanamrm

Reading this is kind of like watching a slow motion train wreck with participants shoveling coal on the fire rather than hitting the brake... sad but the norm today unfortunately.

On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling

Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.

17 February 2023, 09:36

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
Reading this is kind of like watching a slow motion train wreck with participants shoveling coal on the fire rather than hitting the brake... sad but the norm today unfortunately.

It is rather unfortunate that some want to take the high road and claim innocence for problems they create themselves.

And even worse when they try to put the blame on others.

17 February 2023, 21:04

Lhook7

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
Reading this is kind of like watching a slow motion train wreck with participants shoveling coal on the fire rather than hitting the brake... sad but the norm today unfortunately.

It is rather unfortunate that some want to take the high road and claim innocence for problems they create themselves.

And even worse when they try to put the blame on others.

Isn’t it awful when people take the high road?