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Originally posted by impala#03:
I hunted a game reserve in Kwazulu Natal last October. It is about 15,000 ac. fenced. The hunting was true hunting. It was hot, dry dusty tough on foot hunting.

It was not my first choice for a hunt. My original hunt with Kanzutu in Zambia was canceled by the outfitter at the last moment, quite literally as I was departing for the airport. After scrambling around and contacting some friends in South Africa, this hunt was put together. It turned out to be a very nice hunt.

Don't knock the game reserve hunts until you have tried it.

I will post a hunt report when all is straightened out with Kanzutu.

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Originally posted by JCS271:
No good advertisement is complete without pictures of the ele!

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
I second this. Sounds like an advertisement by someone who tries to hide behind the cover of a satisfied hunter. Or, a satisfied hunter who was given an incentive to blow sunshine up everyone's butts.

This is like the Letters to the Editor in the old African Sporting Gazette. While written as a letter Brooke C. they reeked of paid advertisements.

It was so much of a turn off to me I stopped subscribing and when I read hunt reports such as above I discard any thought of hunting there.
Cal

PS. I just looked at the website. Too much free stuff offered and all playing to the mentality of the SCI "book." Book now and get three free plains game, don't take an SCI animal, the second is free. Canned lion hunting, I presume...

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Originally posted by lavaca:
This sounds like an advert.

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To the best of my knowledge,there are no wild lions on private land in KwaZulu Natal other than Phinda and even they were habituated lions. The size of tusks are also suspect for introduced elephant as to reach that size the elephant would be over 40 years old. Worked in Parks for KZN for 10 years there were no private wild lions only captive bred. Unfortunately if this post is true to the poster the practice of lying to international hunters about canned lions is still alive. One would hope that once and for all , hunters would establish the facts about wild lions in South Africa

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Originally posted by Venture South:

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To the best of my knowledge,there are no wild lions on private land in KwaZulu Natal other than Phinda and even they were habituated lions. The size of tusks are also suspect for introduced elephant as to reach that size the elephant would be over 40 years old. Worked in Parks for KZN for 10 years there were no private wild lions only captive bred. Unfortunately if this post is true to the poster the practice of lying to international hunters about canned lions is still alive. One would hope that once and for all , hunters would establish the facts about wild lions in South Africa

Just to clarify.
There are private parks/hunting preserves in KZN that have populations of free roaming self sustaining lions.
They very rarely come up on sale as they are spoken for years in advance and fetch a massive premium.
I know of and have hunted on three such reserves, all over 25000ha in size. You would have more chance of banging the queen than captive breeding lions on these properties and actually finding them after release.

To my knowledge there are no captive breeding operations in KZN. The legislation in KZN makes it nearly impossible to sell them. On the other hand, legislation in the Free State made it easy, hence the proliferation of breeding in that province. Second to OFS would be North West.

Likewise there are groups of Elephant on these properties. Some of them with Elephant that have come out of Govt run conservancies back in the day. Dependant on location some of them still border National parks, some of them are also now community empowerment projects.
These projects have been give green lights where many others have not. They have sold Black and White Rhino in the past as well as Elephant and Lion.

Tusk weights in these areas can be high due to low stocking rates of Elephant and ample food. I have seen some pretty impressive Elephants in Northern KZN.
Bear in mind that 4 of the biggest tuskers in recent history have come out of Tembe that is on the areas doorstep.
The area was not called the Elephant Coast for nothing.

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Originally posted by bwanamrm:
The way I see it, this guy has just as much right to post a hunt report as any of us. We talk a lot about uniting as a group but we just can't seem to pull it off and practice what we preach...

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Originally posted by Safaris Botswana Bound:
There is a big difference between getting along and standing together united against the anti hunters and not cleaning up our sport / industry and stopping BS misleading advertising and perpetuating unacceptable forms of hunting practices. Captive bred lion ( canned) killing and any false form of advertising it one of if not the number one reason hunting is being socially and politically bashed to pieces by the public. The African Lion Study group who are possibly the main policy advisory body for lion hunting in africa has released a statement clearly stating canned lion killing has no benefit to lion conservation , it is therefor to hunting detriment to continue to falsely advertise it or mislead hunters about this unacceptable practice. So until hunters start uniting and standing together on these critical issues we should not be surprised by the continual closure of hunting across Africa.

The same stands for elephant , eg the statements about elephants coming out of parks and being allowed to be hunted in SA , to big Elephant in KZN on ranches , before you get suckered into any hunt in SA that involves one of the big 5 do your due diligence and contact the Provincial conservation authority and get clarity on the status of the animal you wish to hunt , they all have web pages with contact information or the ministry of environmental affairs. Or PHASA .

Hunting has two main threats at the moment anti hunting evangelists and hunters who refuse to see the need to reform our sport.

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Originally posted by Safaris Botswana Bound:
There is a big difference between getting along and standing together united against the anti hunters and not cleaning up our sport / industry and stopping BS misleading advertising and perpetuating unacceptable forms of hunting practices. Captive bred lion ( canned) killing and any false form of advertising it one of if not the number one reason hunting is being socially and politically bashed to pieces by the public. The African Lion Study group who are possibly the main policy advisory body for lion hunting in africa has released a statement clearly stating canned lion killing has no benefit to lion conservation , it is therefor to hunting detriment to continue to falsely advertise it or mislead hunters about this unacceptable practice. So until hunters start uniting and standing together on these critical issues we should not be surprised by the continual closure of hunting across Africa.

The same stands for elephant , eg the statements about elephants coming out of parks and being allowed to be hunted in SA , to big Elephant in KZN on ranches , before you get suckered into any hunt in SA that involves one of the big 5 do your due diligence and contact the Provincial conservation authority and get clarity on the status of the animal you wish to hunt , they all have web pages with contact information or the ministry of environmental affairs. Or PHASA .

Hunting has two main threats at the moment anti hunting evangelists and hunters who refuse to see the need to reform our sport.