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Anyone out there using the 110 grain Round Nose bullet to hunt deer size game in the Herrett? How is the performance on game? LouisB Nosey folks wanta know! ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} | ||
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I've not yet gotten good accuracy from the Herrett with the 110 gr. This is a group for the .30 Herrett at 100 with the 110 gr. bullet. 20 shots and no, you can't find them all on the target. .30 Herrett, 110 gr. Sierra RN target [ 03-19-2003, 00:20: Message edited by: Hobie ] | |||
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Sorry,I can't help I tried the 110gr RN's with poor groups as well.The best groups I have gotten have been with the 125NBT's and the 150gr SP's from Hornaday.Groups run right at 1" to 1.5" at 100yrds. | |||
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Sorry for the large pic. Mine is a 14" with the Choate extension and used as a carbine. Fired sitting supported. Even my worst loads with the Hornady 130 gr. SSP gets 2" at 100. BTW, my BEST load so far with the 130 SSP is with H4227 and gets 2245 fps and can shoot under 1". Pretty good with a 2�X scope. | |||
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| <cpt. caveman> |
what about 125-150 grn 30-30 bullets | ||
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| <Dan in Wa> |
Got mine in 1980 so I have expermentd just a little over the years and those fast powders just are not up to snuff. Don't know I think presures are higher with them also. I know case life is less. 27.0grs. of IMR 4198 fills the case , very accurate, and I get at least 12 firing from each Rem. case if the die is setup for min. headspace. That's with the Nosler 125 BT. Try it, might like it. | ||
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| <Fireball> |
22.0 gr of 2400 with the 110rn has produced 1 1/2 groups at BEST for me. Most groups been about 2" with the 2400. As for Deer they Kill a deer about as DEAD as DEAD can get within 100 yards. I have not had a shot longer than 100 yards as of yet with the Herret. These groups are with my 10" barrel that has a flat lug and a much shorter throat than the later Barrels. Groups get much better with the Sierra 135 spitzer #7350, but I have not used them on game. As I remember Rick Jake has used the 135 on game with his gun. fireball | ||
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Fireball, Interesting, the above target was shot with the Sierra 110 RN and 22 gr. 2400. BTW, I didn't mention before, but this pic is close to actual size. I didn't have a bad day, shooting a 1.25" group with my .45-70 Contender carbine immediately after shooting this group. This shows just how differently different barrels will handle a load. | |||
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I have tried WC680, WC820, and 2400 in all of my 30 Herretts and the ONLY powder that has given me any accuracy is AA2200 and 2176 fps with Hornady 130 SSP. I have some 110s loaded but have not put them on paper or across the chronograph. LouisB | |||
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| <Paul Dustin> |
The 110gr round nose shoots good out of my 10" BBL it is an old flat bottom with 1:14 twist but the 110gr PSP Hornady shoot better out of my gun I use 25.5gr of H4227 and a CCIBR2 primer at just over 2400fps we have take 2 deer last year with the Hornady bullet [ 03-17-2003, 00:22: Message edited by: Paul Dustin ] | ||
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The subject of twist rate in the .30 Herrett barrels came up on the TC-L. While the manuals often show that the test barrels (10 and 14 inch) have 1-14" twists, the twist list (I'll find that and post it if somebody wants it) shows both 1-14" and 1-12" though no 1-10" for the .30 Herrett. That's not to say it isn't true though. Supposedly, my barrel was made too late to be a 1-14" but it is. As nearly as I can figure all the no-step barrels are "supposed" to be 1-14". I believe it was Mike Bellm who told us that TC uses many vendors and that no specs are certain. Anyway, it is interesting. | |||
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| <Fireball> |
Hobie I did not intend to say you cant shoot! I just have had good luck with that load in my barrel. Could it be a loose scope mount? Scope rings not reamed? And although I have NOT had TC barrels as of yet where the throat is so far off center that the bullet slams SIDEWAYS and deforms causing accuracy to suffer............BUT it could be the problem? As I understand some TC barrels Just have a throat too LARGE? Could it be the Headspacing? Some barrels I have needed to Clearance the forend by wraping sandpaper around a piece of Copper or wood dowelrod and sanding away till the forend does not touch the barrel on the sides at all. Maybe you just have one of them JUNK TC Barrels? ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} I had a Bullberry Encore that shot as you discribe until VanHorn rechmabered to 358 Norma Mag it now is a 3/4" grouper "IF" my palms hold up. Fireball [ 03-14-2003, 05:14: Message edited by: Fireball ] | ||
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| <Fireball> |
Hobie I would Like that twist rate list. My barrel is a flat bottom 10" also Thought mione was a 1-14" Go figure Fireball | ||
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| <Paul Dustin> |
Contender only made 2 twist 1:14 and 1:10 this is what Thompson Center told me the early mod had a 1:14 twist and late mod have a 1:10 they told me they never made a 1:12 for the 30 Caliber.I check mine with a cleaning rod and it comes out to 1:14 my 30-30 is 1:10 some check [ 03-17-2003, 00:23: Message edited by: Paul Dustin ] | ||
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| <Dan in Wa> |
Like I said mine is old . It is a 14" twist. Anything over 150grs. tumbles at 25 yds. | ||
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quote:Dear Fireball, I am at a loss to understand your post. If my barrel groups well with other loads but not with the 110 grain bullet, how does that translate to a loose scope mount or unreamed scope rings? Ditto for headspacing. Just what is up with that comment? It is true that the throat in my barrel might not be compatible with the bullet in question. Still as it is one of those junk factory barrels, my response might just be apropos. That statement was that I've not gotten good accuracy in my barrel. That hasn't changed, I don't see any reason for it to change, and it does not apply to many other bullets. I do need to find that twist list which is in JPG format (IF I remember correctly). However, my computer at home is in its death throes and we are nursing it along until the new one arrives. I find it then and post. | |||
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| <Fireball> |
Sorry Guess In did not notice that you are grouping well with other weight bullets. So I guess your barrel just don't like the 110? If you group well with other bullets then Nothing wrong at all with the throat or anything else. Sorry I did not completely read the other post you made. Just assuming (wrongly) that the barrel just plain did not shoot. Fireball | ||
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TCLouis, You have PM. | |||
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I have been trying 110gr bullets in my 10" tube for a while but nothing has worked yet .Groups are scattered all over target.125grain to 150 grain bullets work well. | |||
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Fireball, Thanks. Thought I'd missed something! Wouldn't be the first time. Still looking for that darn file. | |||
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| <T. D. Clevenger> |
I've used the 110gr. RN SP in the 30 Herrett for years. It's as good a deer harvester as the 30/30 carbine using the 150gr. RN SP. I really like it. I'm sort of surprised that some people have had accuracy troubles with that combo. I just assumed that my barrel was average in that regard. I must be lucky, for once. T.D. | ||
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