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That's what the boys at the range will probably say when Mark Dumais whips out a whomping ole .375x.338 Win. Mag, loads it in his 21 1/2" tapered octagon Encore barrel with my brake machined in it and lights if off.

Instead of his body rearing back and his head shaking while the barrel knocks the slobber out of his mouth, he's going to sit there all comfy like nothing happened.

Have to admit that I looked all over for my Encore buttstock and could not find it. I had apprehensions about hanging onto that thing with just the handgun grip to test fire it, even though I was only starting out with 65 gr. of IMR 4350 and a 235 gr. Speer bullet.

Frankly, Jules, if you are onboard, that big mag shot with the handgun grip is little different than shooting your .308 Bellm 20" barrel with my brake. See what I mean about a sissy gun?

Virtually no muzzle flip and absolutely no pain or strain. A .444 Marlin Contender Hunter barrel is much, much worse to hang onto.

I had only made up 3 cases to test fire with to verify the dies were matched to the chamber to suit me, and the last load was 70 gr. While I could have gone hotter, I got enough expansion of the cases to be sure of the size difference between chamber and sized cases.

I then fired one of the commercial rounds Mark sent, which was notably hotter than my 70 gr. load. But the felt effects of firing were hardly any different from my handloads.

Bear in mind, this brake only takes up 1.1" of barrel!

I had shot a couple of these I built some years back. One was a restocked Ruger No. 3 22" .375 Win barrel I had rechambered and added my add-on brake to, which had much more venting and was much longer also. Recoil from it was not bad at all. In fact, it was plenty comfortable to shoot.

But that was from a well stocked rifle, and Mark's I had to shoot sans stock and sans the weight of the scope, to boot. While I used both hands to fire it, I certainly did not need to, other than to support the weight of the long barrel.

I, myself, don't feel I have the need for a stomper like the .375x.338 Win. Mag., but I wouldn't mind having one for elk or bear anyway. Nice shooting caliber when braked with an effective brake. Usually tack drivers also.

Mark, ole buddy, you are going to love this one. It is not only a good looking, well machined work of art, but darned "user friendly."

If anyone does call you a sissy, just stomp on them. [Wink]

(And yes, there are about a half dozen barrels here waiting their turn for my brake being machined into them.... coming.... soon.)

Mike
 
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Which reminds me - pic of Mark's new toy is here:
http://www.1cox.com/tc/Dumais.htm
 
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Cool pics! I like the looks of the brake on an Octagonal barrel [Big Grin]
 
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Ah, yes! I failed to mention that the pix might be up.

Thanks, your are ONE buba!

Something about that caliber. It has always intriqued me, but more so when I have shot it from braked barrels. Lots of power, good trajectory, and more comfortable to shoot than any unbraked .300 Win. Mag I ever shot, maybe even 7mm Mag. I have not shot this one of Mark's from the shoulder, but from the hand held feel of it, I'll bet my .270 Win. Imp. smacks harder on the back end.

Nice round.

Mike
 
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Originally posted by Mike Bellm:
That's what the boys at the range will probably say when Mark Dumais whips out a whomping ole .375x.338 Win. Mag, loads it in his 21 1/2" tapered octagon Encore barrel with my brake machined in it and lights if off.

Instead of his body rearing back and his head shaking while the barrel knocks the slobber out of his mouth, he's going to sit there all comfy like nothing happened.

Have to admit that I looked all over for my Encore buttstock and could not find it. I had apprehensions about hanging onto that thing with just the handgun grip to test fire it, even though I was only starting out with 65 gr. of IMR 4350 and a 235 gr. Speer bullet.

Frankly, Jules, if you are onboard, that big mag shot with the handgun grip is little different than shooting your .308 Bellm 20" barrel with my brake. See what I mean about a sissy gun?

Virtually no muzzle flip and absolutely no pain or strain. A .444 Marlin Contender Hunter barrel is much, much worse to hang onto.

I had only made up 3 cases to test fire with to verify the dies were matched to the chamber to suit me, and the last load was 70 gr. While I could have gone hotter, I got enough expansion of the cases to be sure of the size difference between chamber and sized cases.

I then fired one of the commercial rounds Mark sent, which was notably hotter than my 70 gr. load. But the felt effects of firing were hardly any different from my handloads.

Bear in mind, this brake only takes up 1.1" of barrel!

I had shot a couple of these I built some years back. One was a restocked Ruger No. 3 22" .375 Win barrel I had rechambered and added my add-on brake to, which had much more venting and was much longer also. Recoil from it was not bad at all. In fact, it was plenty comfortable to shoot.

But that was from a well stocked rifle, and Mark's I had to shoot sans stock and sans the weight of the scope, to boot. While I used both hands to fire it, I certainly did not need to, other than to support the weight of the long barrel.

I, myself, don't feel I have the need for a stomper like the .375x.338 Win. Mag., but I wouldn't mind having one for elk or bear anyway. Nice shooting caliber when braked with an effective brake. Usually tack drivers also.

Mark, ole buddy, you are going to love this one. It is not only a good looking, well machined work of art, but darned "user friendly."

If anyone does call you a sissy, just stomp on them. [Wink]

(And yes, there are about a half dozen barrels here waiting their turn for my brake being machined into them.... coming.... soon.)

Mike

 
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Thanks for the pix Mike; it looks like it's gonna be a lotta fun. If anybody talks dirty about it I'm gonna whop 'em with my purse!

I can't wait to try this out in the dark.

Mark Dumais
 
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Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha I hate when that happens Mark.
And indeed Mikes brake is a winner. I have O muzzle flip in that 308Bellm that he wishes he still had<grin>
I shot a load in the 444 hunter that Mike rechambered for me.....Wait...that didn't sound to good did it?<LOL>
Anyway this load pushed a 200gr HP XTP at 2600fps in that 14" barrel. And it hurt to say the least. That load was with AA1680 and I got it from the Accurate Arms no.2 load book. I shot 3 rounds and thats it. I pulled the bullets from the other 17 rounds. That was enough for me.
 
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Maybe I should have Mike wack that TC break off my Encore .444 and put his on it. I'm not a big rifle shooter and this one kicks my butt!

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I think TCs brake is Ok Steve. I was shooting a really hot load. 1680 is just a tad to fast for using that much powder. But Mike has a great brake. [Wink]
 
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Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha I hate when that happens Mark.
And indeed Mikes brake is a winner. I have O muzzle flip in that 308Bellm that he wishes he still had<grin>
I shot a load in the 444 hunter that Mike rechambered for me.....Wait...that didn't sound to good did it?<LOL>
Anyway this load pushed a 200gr HP XTP at 2600fps in that 14" barrel. And it hurt to say the least. That load was with AA1680 and I got it from the Accurate Arms no.2 load book. I shot 3 rounds and thats it. I pulled the bullets from the other 17 rounds. That was enough for me.

Thats funny Jules...I got into a discussion..at the pond... about the 444 Marlin and the guy had just bought one in a 10" barrel....His reply was it was NO problem,,,Hardly no recoil and fun to shoot??? My 14" 444 Kicked like a Wounded Mule! I cannot imagine a 10" barrel chambered for a 444....but then.....the mentality of some of those catfish

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So Mike, if this is gonna turn out to be a sissy gun, what would it take to be a manly encore caliber w/your brake? How 'bout a .470 Capstick?

--a brief, non-commercial aside to apologize for the ah, strictly speaking, non-pistol carbine kinda barrels associated herewith...I live in an unenlightened state what doesn't do concealed pistol licenses and, due to a fascist twist of reciprocity laws, can't handgun hunt in my swamp in da U.P. of Michigan. I guess I should post to the single shot rifle forum, but all the action, and all the best people, are over here--

Anyway gentlemen, this barrel is the last piece of a project that includes some really nice toys from VVCG, Nimrod packs and Harry Morse Custom Knives. When it's all together I'll have to post some pictures of the total package, hopefully next to Bambi hanging in my backyard.

Mark Dumais
 
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Originally posted by Jules:

I shot a load in the 444 hunter that Mike rechambered for me...

And some people wonder why his customers are willing to wait soooo long for delivery... :-)

Mark Dumais
 
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Maybe that 10" .444 was fun to shoot because of all the unburnt powder? ;-)

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