I have asked this question on the other boards and will ask all of you also. I'll have to scratch the Tasco's, for there's no more to be had that I can find. So since I have to step up in price, How about the Weaver Classic V24? Anyone using one for target or varmint shooting. Are they clear at the highest power for long range shooting? Any info will help.
The newest Weavers are nothing more than the same Asian optics contractors that are building Redfield, Weaver, NcStar, Eurolux, Bec Inc, and some of the Simmons/Blazer line. These are the same contractors that Tasco went to after they stopped their Japanese production.
SO, I'd opt for the cheapest of these type scopes in a magnification that you like.
I can also still get ahold of the Chinese Tasco's as well from several distributers (also recently purchased a used-like new 10-40X50mm target Tasco on Ebay: my favorite Tasco) and any dealer in your area should be able to do likewise.
Posts: 830 | Location: Virginia, USA | Registered: 08 March 2002
I have a Weaver 6X24 on a 223AI and am very pleased with it. I sold a 17 remington and had to make a choice of letting the Weaver 6x24 or Nikon 6.5X20 go and I let the Nikon go with the rifle and kept the Weaver. Very clear at all powers. I would buy another in a heart beat.
Jules, while I have not used the scope you are taling about, I have heard mostly good about them. On the other hand, I have used a Weaver 2.5x8x28mm Handgun Scope, and I thought this was an excellent scope.
On a different note, I and a couple shooting buddies have been using the Simmons 6.5x20x44mm 44 Mag Rifle Scopes. These are a realy decent scope for the money. Up untill a couple months ago you could pick up the #1047 (without the target turrets) for around the $100.00 mark, but they have went up since then.
I am thinking about getting a 16 1/2" Bull Barrel for my Contender in .223, and if and when this project comes together I will more than likely be using a Simmons 6.5x20x44mm 44 Mag Rifle Scope on this barrel (with a pistol grip I might add).
I was looking for a scope with fine crosshairs or a 1/8" moa target dot or both. I see the V24 has a Varminter Reticle. Duplex with the dot but looks bigger then 1/8"moa.
Jules, seems I have looked that up on Weavers web site, just can not remember for sure what size the dot is, but I am thinking it is like 3/8".
I also have a Simmons #800116 (one of the made in Japan versions) that is an 8x32x44mm with fine crosshairs and a 1/4 minute dot reticle. This one also has Target Turrets with 1/8 minute adjustments (and the adjustments seem really good). These are no longer made, but are still available from CDNN Investments for $139.95.
I use mine on my .22 LR Target Rifle that I shoot in the e-mail Bench Rest Matches with. I really like the scope for this purpose, and it seems quite clear.
I put a bid in, on the weaver. I didn't even know Simmons made an 8x32. Thanks for the info Larry.
Sean, Do you not think the Weaver is worth the extra money? I really don't know. The shops around here don't have any for me to look through. And for that reason I figure it's best to get the info from ya'll.
Jules, the Weaver web site lists the size of the dot in the V-24 as being .667" to .167" coverage. I am assuming that would be low and high magnifications.
Actually Simmons does not produce the #800116 any longer. CDNN Investments bought out the remaining inventory from the last production run of these scopes (or so I've been told). Back in April they had 600 of them on hand.
That is the one I have and really like. I have had mine at least 5 years. I think they quit making the V24 and went to the new super version. I could be very wrong.
quote:Originally posted by Jules: Sean, Do you not think the Weaver is worth the extra money? I really don't know. The shops around here don't have any for me to look through. And for that reason I figure it's best to get the info from ya'll.
Jules,
No, all things being equall, knowing that they all come from the same Asian contractors, I just opt for the least expensive brand name, as the scopes are almost virtually identical in quality and sometimes in configuration.
The Simmons 8-32's are very nice, but I like the BSA 8-32 better as it comes with more
On my 22mag Bellm barrel, I have been using a cheap Simmons/Blazer 8-32 all along with fantastic results, but the BSA comes with sun shade and is a nicer overall scope
Posts: 830 | Location: Virginia, USA | Registered: 08 March 2002
quote:Originally posted by SD Handgunner: Actually Simmons does not produce the #800116 any longer. CDNN Investments bought out the remaining inventory from the last production run of these scopes (or so I've been told). Back in April they had 600 of them on hand.
Larry,
This is correct! FWIW, For the non-FFL, CDNN can be a fantastic source of optics (sometimes even for the FFL ) I really like some of the BEC INC and Eurolux 6-24 models with illuminated reticle that they offer
Posts: 830 | Location: Virginia, USA | Registered: 08 March 2002
Is there a 6x24 or 8x32 that is clear at the highest power setting. I have heard that the cheap scopes tend to get kinda milky at the highest power at long range. My eyes are bad enough without having milk in them.
SD or Sean, Do either of y'all have a web address or ph # for CDNN? I've not heard of them before, but sounds like I might want to check them out their prices/availability for optics. Thanks, Gary T.
Posts: 491 | Location: Springhill, LA | Registered: 27 March 2002
I use my Simmons #800116 8x32x44mm on my .22 LR Bench Rest Rifle. On the targets we shoot the little itty bitty numbers on the scoring rings are .062" tall. At the 25 yard distance we shoot these targets, with my Scope set to eliminate parallax completely, set at 32x I can read these numbers fairly easily. At 50 yards it is just so I can not make them out at 32x. I am not sure if that gives you an idea of the clairity of the optics or not, but to me I think it is quite clear.
The only problem is on overcase days, the sight picture could be a little brighter on 32x. However I have nothing else with this much magnification to compair it to, so am not sure how other 32x scopes appear in compairison.