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7-30 Waters Improved

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24 June 2003, 11:54
x-caliber
7-30 Waters Improved
Hey guys.

I have ordered the 7-30 Waters Improved barrel from Bullberry's "Ready to ship" section on their website. However, I am having a hard time finding dies for this cartridge. Midsouth tells me they don't carry them, and RCBS tells me that they don't make them. Does anyone know where I can get dies for this cartridge?

Thanks,

X
24 June 2003, 12:18
Jules
X,
Did you ask Fred? He has alot of dies in stock.
24 June 2003, 13:06
x-caliber
Hi Jules:

I didn't talk with Fred, but I spoke with September and Troy. They told me that they didn't have any in stock.

Thanks,

X
24 June 2003, 13:49
Magnum Mike
CH Tool & Die most likely would have em. Check em out at http://www.ch4d.com/ .
24 June 2003, 14:48
MAINER1234
if its improved then you can just fireform to make your brass and then just get a neck sizing 7mm die so that u arent full length sizing, the improved calibers normally dont stretch that much so full lengh sizing isnt needed
24 June 2003, 14:55
x-caliber
Thanks Mike,

Those folks do make them. That'll work! [Big Grin]

Mainer1234,

Seriously? I don't need a FL die? Just a standard 7-30 Waters neck sizing die? What about seating the bullets?

Thanks for the help guys...X
24 June 2003, 19:37
contendernut
Redding makes two different marked die sets for the 7-30 imp: 7-30 IMP and 7x30-30 IMP. I'm not sure if there is a difference but I have saw both versions. They may have a set on the sheft.

As to using a standard 7-30 Waters neck die, I don't think it will work unless you modify it. You will wind up sizing the top of the case back down to original 7-30 size.
25 June 2003, 03:14
DennisF
If you decide to get a Hornady 7mm neck sizing die, be sure it is labeled 7mm Short. The regular 7mm will not resize the neck enough to hold the bullet. I took a dealer's word that a regular 7mm would work and ended up buying the correct die later.

[ 06-24-2003, 18:15: Message edited by: DennisF ]
25 June 2003, 03:31
x-caliber
Thanks for all of the help guys. I have discovered that it is going to take 3 months to special order a set of dies for the 7-30 Waters Improved. Since I will have to wait three months to get the dies, I decided that I would rather wait for the barrel that I really wanted...the boring old 30-30 Winchester. I really did not want the hassle of forming cases anyway. I talked with the Bullberry folks and they let me change my order.

Well now for the long wait!!!

Thanks again guys...X