Just a taste...
This is the .22 Mag rechamber we did at Mike's last weekend. She will see service tomorrow at the range. I have 4 different loads to try. Will pick up more at the range if I can.

Good thing I don't loose any points for ugly.:-)
The beauty of the chamber is ALL that matters.

Sorry about the lousy pic. I know the scope overhanges the barrel a bit - don't know yet if the minor blast will have any effect.



More tomorrow night.
steve

It may ruin the "scenery," but I highly recommend at least a strip of duct tape where the scope is susceptible to the hot, burning gases. Otherwise, you'll "ugly up" your scope...

A .22 mag isn't likely to cause any damage other than cosmetic, and more than likely, it would take a number of rounds for even that to happen. But as the old saying goes: an ounce of prevention...

I am anxious to hear how it shoots.

I don't know about what the mag might do to the AO on the scope. Any way to go with higher rings and move the scope back out of harms way?

Good move using the carbine forend.

BTW, next time up, we can cut another dovetail if you want.

Using the carbine forends is a big step up from the angular toothpicks TC puts out for the handgun barrels.

I don't know who is more anxious to see what it does, you or me!

So when are you going to become the Mag Mogul?

Announcement forth coming??????

Mike

Nothing better than going to the range with an ugly gun and out shooting everything there.

Yes, I loves an ugly gun IF it shoots

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1buba:
[QB]Just a taste...
This is the .22 Mag rechamber we did at Mike's last weekend. She will see service tomorrow at the range. I have 4 different loads to try. Will pick up more at the range if I can.

Good thing I don't loose any points for ugly.:-)
The beauty of the chamber is ALL that matters.


Hey 1buba,
Did you know that now a days they make pistol scopes for handguns? It's the latest rage! (just joking)
T.D.

You all gave me my laugh for the day (except Sean, who will turn me green with envy when he posts his pic).

Lets see,
T.D. - great idea on the tac-tape, will have to do that.

Mike - these are the highest rings I have, may have to fire up the mill for a try at an offset mount? Would be good practice...

T.D. - Good one. Can't afford a new 4-12v, not sure my eyes are compatible anymore either. This 8-32 Trashco might come apart, or it might be great. Just ads to the fun - almost as much as your joke.

Ok - lacing up the boots now. Gonna reduce the population of little black x's.

steve

I think it looks fine Steve. But you do need to cover the scope like Bobby said.
I heard Sean has a half dozen little elves supplying his toys LOL!!
Shootem up buddy.

Ok -
I must start by explaining that I ain't much of a shot. With a rifle, I can do the one inch groups. With a 14" barrel, I've had probably 2 1" groups with most being 2-3". I just ain't that good. 'nuff said?

Learned a couple lessons today. When the scope over hangs the end of the barrel, a bore site won't work. Took me a box of mixed old stuff to get on paper. Next, the scope is actually a FIXED 32.

So, once I got on and relatively lined up the first group was with CCI's and it went about 2". Not good for Mike's ability with the reamers and not good for Sean's and the rest of y'all's skill levels, but not bad for me. Next was some Winchester - about the same, but different point of aim, 'bout 2" lower. Next were the Remington standards - I was in heaven. New point of aim - 'bout an inch higher, but shrunk the group down to about 1 1/16th inch on center. I actually put 9 shots (one was in the bank to set the cross hairs) into 1 1/4". Had to try the Remington Premiers (plastic tips). Not as good, 1.5" and 2" groups, but not terrible either.

I noticed a couple of things - I tried an Outers Pistol perch. I will be unloading it shortly. Junk.

This also took me back to my bulls-eye shooting days. The grip is everything. Trigger pull is real easy with this soft a shooter - but the grip is the killer. I'll need somemore practice, but I'm betting I can get this gun to shoot under .5". May be a stretch, but I think the gun can do it.

BTW, as a .22 LR, I could only get 3-4" at 100 yrds. That was on a good day.

So, Mike, you've done it. You've shown me how to make this barrel a fun one. Thanks again brother.

steve

Way to go buddy! Now how about rechambering it to a 22 K hornet and seeing how it shoots!

Thanks.

I'm trying to do the math to see if it can be a .218 Bee first... :-)
steve

Steve, it'll make a Bee ok.

Good shooting, especially for a 10" barrel! But how about the satisfaction factor? You did the chamber yourself! Con su manos. & all by yourself. I just showed you how, but YOU did it.

Now, Sean and the rest of the world are waiting for the next Magnum Mogul to emerge. Get a .22 Mag. reamer and a .224 throat reamer. Bring 'em up here for me to show you how to butcher them up so you can duplicate what you did here.

When we went into Shawnie Tool (rental outlet for Pacific Tool and Guage reamers/headspace guages here in Grants Pass, OR), you noticed that their reamers looked more like jewelry. Then if you paid much attention to my reamers, you noticed they are less than pretty. But you also examined how mine cut through the borescope.

If you buy a .22 Mag reamer, it will be pretty to look at, but will not cut the dimensions/configuration you have in your chamber, guaranteed.

I will be glad to get you going, if you want to. My plate is full, and there is plenty of work to go around for folks willing to put some extra into their chambers.

Splurge and get some RWS .22 Mag. ammo. Expensive, but fast and accurate, at least in the 16 1/2" barrel that Blaine Eddy tested back in the 80s.

BTW, Blaine emailed me yesterday. He has a puter on "trial." IF he falls to the puter bug, you will get some pretty fantastic info from him regarding predator hunting. He is a rabid predator hunter & darned good at it. Says he is still shooting the 5.6x50 R Bellm barrel I did for him years ago.

Mike

Another point, Steve. You will probably have to take the pilot diameter down since .22 Mag is supposed to use .224" bullets. The reamer will likely come with about a .218" diameter pilot, which is .001" normal bore size for .224" groove diameter barrels.

.22 LR barrels normally have about a .217" bore diameter. So if you don't reduce its diameter, it won't fit into the bore of .22 LR barrels. And if you want a mess, try forcing it in. Once should cure you.

While you can spin the pilot down with emery paper, it is best to set it up in the lathe and grind it down with the tool post grinder.

Or, if you know of any grinding shops in your area that won't zap you for a $100 per hour minimum, you can have them grind it down on a center grinder. Take it down to .216" or a tad less even, and also grind down the area where the flutes are in front of the throat on the reamer. Grind this area down to about .2" so that chips do not get caught in the flutes and score the tops of the rifling.

Mike

Mike -
I'm up for the re-chambers. Can you email me the info on where you would suggest I order the reamers (including the specs). I've got an order started w/ MSC all ready. :-)

As for doing it myself - nothing like it. I really want to take some time with the Remington Premier rounds, I think they'd do some real damage on the little Belding Squirrels. Will try the RWS though, just have to find some.

Still working on my lathe. Have the relay on the lathe switching fine, but still can't get the flipping thing spinning. An electrician I ain't.

Will try and call you later,
steve

[ 02-10-2003, 19:45: Message edited by: 1buba ]

Buy your reamer anywhere. It is just a place to start. Clymer is probably the cheapest.

Or if you come back up, we can grind some reamers.

If you don't get your lathe going, give me a call.

Only two leades from your phase converter should go to ground and will show 110 volt. Your "ghost leg" or generated leg will only show current going to either of the hot legs from the breaker panel. It does not go to ground. It is generated by the motor in your phase converter and only has current going to the other two hot legs.

You should have approx. 220 volt between the hot legs coming in (110 each, 220 between them), and unless your box has some correction built into it, your ghost leg will read about 175 volt between it and the hot 110 volt legs from the pole.

Buy or bum a multi-meter to get your voltage.

You should have a 3-pole breaker. The 2 hot legs from the breaker panel and the generated "ghost leg" are the ones tied to the 3 poles. There is no neutral wire connected to the three poles. Coming out of the breaker, these three hot leades are the ones connected to the motor. There should be numbered tags on each of the wires coming out of the motor and a schematic showing which numbers are connected to what. Note that one set of wires coming out is connected only to itself, but the schematic will show which ones they are.

No neutral wire is connected to the motor's leades! The only ground wire is a "frame ground" which does just that.... it grounds the entire machine to avoid electric shock to you in case of a short. The frame ground will be connected to the junction box on the motor, most likely, but not to any of the wires coming out of the motor.

Hope this helps. Just make sure you got it before you throw the switch, and the sparks fly!

I have done all of my own wiring for the last 15 plus years.... ain't no electrician either..... but can probably talk you through it if you don't have local help.

Be careful, and don't do dumb things.

Mike

It sort of reminds me of a Mazda Miata with a 24 foot canoe strapped on the roof.

I like the forearm also, so I am now thinking about getting a carbine forearm and copying your idea.

UPDATE!!!

Lathe is spinning. Hope to get the apron back on the ways and get to making chips tonight. Lookout world, more rechambered .22mag TC's are comin.


steve

Dear .22 Mag. Mogul To Be......

Way to go!

BTW, since you have a mill, you need to make a setup for quickly milling a second dovetail into the barrel for the forward carbine forend screw hole.

Next trip up here is when?

Mike

Just got my .22Mag rechambered barrel back from Mike yesterday. If the weather cooperates I'll take it to the range today. The workmanship is excellent. Hey Mike maybe we need to talk about a .308 Bellm rechamber in the future. Regards Lehighton78.

Mike -
I need to buy the dovetail cutter. That is for sure. Got the apron back together last night. Will be picking up some scrap today and try turning some this weekend.

Hmmm.... Next trip. Reunion of the class of '03??? I need to look at what the next few weekends hold, but maybe in a month or so. It is definately something that I'm looking forward to. I may even submit questions before hand.
:-)

Lehighton,
Can't wait to hear about your mag. I'm convinced that Mike's rechambers do indeed make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

steve

Hey Steve
I did not get to chance to do my own rechamber YET but I just received my 22 mag rechamber from
Mike at MBMMCO. The wind was blowing as it can here in the desert but I just had to try it out.
Only had one brand of ammo but consistantly put 5 into under a 1/2 inch at 50 yards. We have another winner. I would highly recomend Mike to any one. More later.
Rich

dang.....im going to have too try this...
.22 to a .22mag....yup...........
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steve
i think it looks great !!!!
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