Cokdnloded: How fast do I have to push the Remington 150 grain pointed soft point bullets to make them effective and expand on deer size stuff? I have recovered some from wet newsprint that were shot from a 357 Mag and they could likely be loaded again.
LouisB
Posts: 4267 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002
I have only killed one deer with mine.I used 180gr hornady ssp,the deer dropped in his tracks at 100 yards.I really like the 35 rem some guys don't every body has an opinion.I tried cast bullets but never got anything to work very well.The 180 and 200 grain bullets work great.Try some varget powder it works.
Posts: 175 | Location: mineral wells texas | Registered: 12 November 2001
I have a 14" 35 rem. Tho I never hunted with it for target work it has been one of my exceptional factory bbls, I use the Rem. 200 gr roundnose bullets loaded around factory velocities. I have gotten sub inch at 100 when I hold my mouth just right and managed to put 5 in around 5" at 400 one time. I have never had a misfire and have sized cases full length and neck only but may be I'm just lucky. Wes
Posts: 330 | Location: Oregon, U.S. of A. | Registered: 22 May 2002
I have not yet hunted with this bullet. But one would think that it would be safe to say that you should get up to 35 Rem velocities for it to work as that is the only cartridge Rem. used this bullet in. I myself,would want an MV of at least 1900-2000, but heck, I can do that easily with the 180's. So my thinking is 2200 FPS min. for the 150 Rem from the muzzle of a 14" barrel.
PS, I am still looking for more Remington 150 grainers in .35 Cal.
What load are you using to get up there to the 1900-2000 mark with the 180s? Curious minds would work up slowly just to try performance in their barrel.
LouisB
Posts: 4267 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002
When I was evaluating the 14" 35 Rem barrel before it was converted to 358 Bellm, I did work ups with several different bullets and powders. I did get some pretty good results although the results after it was converted were much better. All-in-all, the best powder was H-322 and with the 200 grain Hornady #3510 SPFB bullet I got an average velocity of 2112 f/s and a SD of 16. The load was CCI-200 primer, 39.0 grains H-322, and the #3510 set to touch the rifling. The group was only so-so at 1.8" to 2.3".
Don Shearer
Posts: 223 | Location: Centennial, CO USA | Registered: 14 March 2002
Pistoljess again. I have been loading My 35 to about 2350fps with any of the 180 grain bullets. I use h-322. The load I am shooting is out of a Sierra reloading manual that is several years old. In fact I dont even know where my copy is. CAUTION My pistol seems very sympathetic to overloads YOURS MAY NOT BE. My primers are flattening just a little but no hard extraction. How fast does Mikes 358 Bellum shoot. I guess this is directed to him. I dont target practice and dont demand more than about 2 moa since that is better than I can shoot. Recoil is fairly stiff but less than my muzzleloading pistol. Case life is very short with this load due to stretching at the web. I discard my brass at 3-5 loadings.
Posts: 40 | Location: nashville | Registered: 13 November 2002
pistoljess, Sounds like a very hot load for the 35rem in a contender. That's almost what i'm getting out of the 358JDJ in my 14" rechambered factory barrel.
That is an awfully hot loading in the 35 Rem. As evidenced by your short case life, you are in all likelihood springing your frame at every shot.
Eventually, you will pound your frame into an early retirement by springing it like that. Flattening of the large rifle primers like you mention would indicate to me you are way past the Max loading for that cartridge.
You might do well to back down some on those loads to preserve your frame life.
I have to jump in here with my 2 cents and say that I have used as much as 42 gr. H322 with the Speer 180 gr. FP for 2393 fps from my 21" barrel. Also using the CCI 200 primer, this load isn't too hot according to the Ken Waters system of measuring relative brass expansion BUT I have that hinky feeling that always comes over me before a big negative happening in my life. This load was located in some manual or another before I used it, still...
I still use H322 but have backed off quite a bit and now use the Hornady 200 gr. Interlock. Another point of consideration with me was that I wanted to use the same load in my Remington Model 8. Heck, the factory Winchester ST only gets 1836 fps in my 21" barrel. My load with H322 did get but 2200 but I dropped a couple of grains of H322 to get 2100 fps. This doesn't strain my Remington M8 either.
The factory 150 grain load gets 2234 fps from my 21" Contender. This is really pitiful performance in the caliber with a poor BC and SD. This is why I went to the 180 Speer FP as the minimum weight bullet I use. I really prefer the 200 grain but have tried the 220 Speer FP. I get good accuracy with the 180-220 gr. bullets but not great with the 150s or the pistol bullets. I did not try the 250s but I just don't see being able to move them fast enough to be effective.
H322 is the best performing powder I've used in the .35 Rem.
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Posts: 2324 | Location: Staunton, VA | Registered: 05 September 2002
My Sierra manual list 40.8 of H 322 as max for the 180 gr. at 2100fps. My manual is a 1995. Also what is safe a 30 degres may be a desaster at 95 degres. I agree with Jules that 2350 fps is almost 358JDJ performace. Is it worth the risk? Lone Hunter
Posts: 210 | Location: Smithfield, NC, USA | Registered: 15 April 2002
I got my information out of a Sierra manual about 1975 or so. I cannot remember the edition. They listed 43.5 grains of H322 behind if I remember correctly a 158 gr thru 180 grain and their velocity was 2350(I dont have a chrono) I have been using 43 grains (dont try this in yours until you work up to it, my gun has a long throat) I switched to Fed 215 Mag primers and backed off 10% and stopped at 43 Gr. That is their reccomendation on discarding primers. Is anyone else using close to this load? Most manuals now list 38-40 grs. as max for the contender but I have been shooting this same load for almost 30 years with good success. It may blow up tomorrow. I had a photostatic copy of this sheet in the manual but couldnt find it. It is a hell of a deer killer but pistol bullets seem to blow up on deer. I had a friend that was getting more than this out of his but I cant remember his load. I do not shoot as much as most people and if I did I wouldnt shoot this load. Thanks for the comments guys. I wonder how much powder mike burns in his .358
Posts: 40 | Location: nashville | Registered: 13 November 2002
I get 2074fps with a 180 bullet out of a 10" BBL and 2165fps with a 150 bullet from my Herret and in my 358 JDJ I get 2565fps with a 180 bullet 14" BBL. I know how we can get 150gr Remington bullet the only thing is we need to order 50,000 of them. If any would like to know more about trying to get an order going e-mail me
I am interested in getting some 150's, but we sure would need a lot of shooters to get that big of an order going. Do you really think we could get that big of an order going?
This is the 150gr Remington bullet they used in the 35 Remington. I will try to get a price for them. All we need is 50 people to buy a 1000pc each and we could order them.I will post a price per 1000 when I get it.
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