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Any feedback on this would be appreciated. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | ||
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Two guys at my department carry them as their back up gun and have been very pleased with them. Both have been 100% reliable up to this point, one has appr. 1000 rounds through his and the other one has about 500 rounds. They are very well suited for concealing. I have shot one and it is pleasant to shoot and easy to manage. Both have favored 115 grain ammo. Geoff | |||
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I have one in 9mm and have only put about 100 rounds through it of assorted (intentionally) ammo. No function issues at all were detected. Well balanced, very shootable, and smooth. Shooting center-mass at 25 yards is quite do-able. Do note that it's not a pocket pistol. It's certainly concealable but requires proper holster consideration. | |||
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I bought an XDs before I had a chance to shoot a shield. A couple weeks ago I shot a Shield 9MM, I found it to be a great shooting gun. For some reason the trigger felt better than my full size M&P. If didnt have the Springfield, I wouldnt hesitate to carry the Shield. Everyone I know seems to really like theirs. | |||
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It makes no sense IMHO in purchasing the M&P Shied. I personly think the Compact is a better buy. The Shied 6.1 x 4.6 inches at 19 oz (7+1) Rounds /Cost MS / $449 Compact 6.7 x 4.5 inches at 21.7 oz (12+1) Rounds /Cost MS/ $569 Ok the Shield is single stack (¼ inch) slightly but not majorly thinner and almost three oz lighter. “Same Height” But the barrel length goes in your pants. 7 Rounds verses 12 or you can use an Xgrip with a full size M&P magazine and carry 17 Rounds in the Compact. You say most gun fights are over in 2/3 shots sure but some people unload their firearm under stress, even LEO's. I'd hate to be caught short. | |||
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There are a ton of You Tube videos on the Shield. Everyone seems to like them, except for the unnecessary side safety. At the same physical size as an XDs, and weight unloaded, I opted for the XDs. I've never shot a Shield but, of course, they would be pleasant to shoot, as they are heavy for caliber, at 21.5 oz (?)with the mag. About 6 ounces heavier than a Kahr PM9/CM9. The Shield and the XDs weigh the same unloaded and have the Glock like triggers and the Kahr as a double action like trigger. Switching back and forth at the range is a little goofy because sometimes I forget which I'm shooting, the Glock, XDs, or the Kahr and remembering which gun has which trigger if I'm not paying attention. Whether you are elephant hunting or carrying a pistol, weight matters. I carry the XDs and notice the weight. Carrying the Kahr is unnoticeable. As much as I, along with everyone else, might love the Shield, I just can't see lugging the extra weight for a 7+1 Shield as opposed to a 6+1 Kahr. But I still carry the XDs, so my opinion may be of limited value. ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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There are just two reasons that I would not own one: 1. It is a Smith and Wesson 2 It is an auto (semi) - I am a reloader and I found that I HATE to chase brass at the range. I own two semis - 22RF and an SKS that I don't load for - the ammo I bought for it was less expensive than 22RF at the time and I knew it was going to be a weapon that used throw-away brass. When I get down to less than 200 rounds I will rebarrel the gun and do away with the gas activation. Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page. | |||
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Paul, I bought a Yugo SKS for: One it's more robustly made, it's made well in my opinion, and it has a gas selector switch for grenade use that I like because I can switch it off and use it single shot so as not to chase brass nor ruin it in ejection. One can buy an additional gas cylinder that is easily replaced and by drilling correct sized gas vent holes in it you can tune your SKS to just toss brass by your feet. I, personally, would never let a semi auto's ejection from preventing me from buying and enjoy such firearm. I've shot many adjustable gas valves for the French MAS Model 49/56 which is notorious for throwing brass very very far. | |||
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The question is irrelevant. I'm going to buy a Shield just for the heck of it but they're IMPOSSIBLE to find. Must mean they're popular! ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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I bought one of the first Shields to hit the market. I've been carrying it and shooting it for just on a year now. Mine is a 9MM. The pistol conceals very easily as it is thin. I use a Crossbreed IWB holster and can wear it with just a baggy tee shirt with no issues. The Shield has a very good trigger right out of the box it is smooth with a crisp reset and a clean break not to light and not to heavy. The sights are fine. The gun shoots every bit as good as a full size duty pistol. In fact I used it to qualify with and shot the same score as I did with my full sized duty pistol. It handles great. It has been flawless in all areas of function and in 2,000 some odd rounds I've not had one single failure to feed or fire with various ammo including +P. for reliability I'd rate it right up there with a Glock or an HK or any other serious duty arm. I wish I could say the same for my Khar Arms CM 40 which was a bit smaller however it was a jam o matic POS I got rid of it due to function and reliability issues. It doesn't matter how small it is if it won't reliably go bang every time I need it to. In a nut shell the Shield is small enough to conceal but good enough to fight with. Overall I love mine. Now for the negatives. The slide safety is a PITA I'd seriously prefer that it wasn't there. Part of my daily check on the gun after function checking it and press checking it the last thing I do before holstering it is making sure that damned slide safety is disengaged. That little safety could become a get killed switch and it isn't very pronounced or obvious when you need to switch it off, it's kind of in a weird place. I should probably incorporate a sweep of that safety into my draw drills just to be sure. It's a stupid lawyer add on and it has no place on a combat pistol. The only other thing negative thing I could say about the shield is that it could be better melded it has some sharp corners especially at the muzzle on the frame I think they do it for looks but it serves no purpose and should IMO be smooth and more rounded. Overall the Shield is the most shootable useable fight worthy sub compact that I've ever had the opportunity to use. I highly recommend it. Note, I am not comparing the Sheild to the XDS because I haven't used an XDS yet. They look to be great as well! | |||
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Joe, Just letting you know that I read your post. I bought the SKS as a "big" 22 for plinking. It doesn't meet my standards for accuracy as I cannot get it to shoot sub MOA groups but then it wasn't intended to do that and I haven't taken the time to work up any loads in an effort to tune the loads to it. I am happy with it as a plinking rifle and when I have to buy ammo for it I will rebarrel and remove the gas system. Then I will work up a load for the new barrel and it will shoot sub MOA or I will sell it. I am too old to change my ways now. Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page. | |||
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Got lucky and bought a Sheild when the first became available OTC. Bought mine in 40S&W. I have about 500 rounds through it of a mix of 155grn, 165grn, 180grn all FMJ. Also shot Criticle defence and Gold Dot ammo out of it. Did SbyS comparisons of the Sheild, and other ultra thin concealable guns from Kahr, Taurus, and Ruger. Choose the Shield because hands down it had the best triger IMHO, and by far felt best in my hand. I will simply say I am supreamely satidfied with it in every possable way. It is superb in the fallowing catagories in what means mosr in a personal defence hand gun. <>Conceals superbly carries equally comfortably. <>Easy to operate and shoot <>Is waaaaaaay more accurate than needed in a gun ment for shooting at personal defence ranges. <>In 40S&W has all the power I will ever need to stop/eliminate any threat I will ever and hopefully never encounter. <>At $430 was actually cheap im my opinion for the lever of quality of firearm you get. I trust my life and the lives of my family to it and can not give it a strong enough endorcement and recommend to buy to others. Arthur. | |||
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My 9mm shield has been one of my best pistol purchases. Very accurate, easy to carry and highly reliable. Cliff NRA Life Member CMP Distinguished Rifleman NRA Master, Short and Long Range | |||
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