Spartansburg, SC. Two thugs tried to rob a Waffle House Saturday night. One pulled a gun, and a CCW holder drew his weapon and told the men to wait for deputies to arrive. When the bigger loser pointed his gun at the holder, he shot and killed him. The other one decided to drop his weapon and wait for the deputies, who arrested him.

Good news for the country.

What are the Waffle House rules for CCW ?

Who cares what Waffle House thinks as long as your still alive.

I think you get free meals for a week.

I would guess the local people were very grateful. All the PC assholes are at corporate level.

In Idaho the business must post "No firearms allowed" in a prominent place that can be seen from the sidewalk. A few did originally, but enough customers told them they no longer felt safe in today's climate to patronize them, so there are very few today with signs up.

Kewl!
At least one of them will never figure in the recidivism rate.

Watching your partner keel over dead may be an eye opening experience for a surviving crook also.

Hope the shooter recovers just fine with no issues.

Free meals for a week???

Should be at least one free meal a week for a year... IMHO of course.

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What are the Waffle House rules for CCW ?

They have a major caliber requirement. Fortunately, the citizen met the requirement.

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Citizen----------------dead BG-------surviving BG (now in jail)

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In Idaho the business must post "No firearms allowed" in a prominent place that can be seen from the sidewalk. A few did originally, but enough customers told them they no longer felt safe in today's climate to patronize them, so there are very few today with signs up.

The same here in Ohio. When the state originally went w/ the CCW law, our AG talked to AGs from other states. They were told that lots of businesses would post "No CCW" and would eventually remove them as they received citizens' complaints and business fell-off. And this is exactly what happened.

I gave my insurance man a fit over his sign and so did other insurees. The sign is now gone.

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Originally posted by Kevin Rohrer:
They have a major caliber requirement. Fortunately, the citizen met the requirement.

George

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Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Armed Robber

by Richard Nance •
January 24, 2012 •
Comments (66)


Kenneth Jowan Craig, 29, was arrested as a suspect in a failed armed robbery at a Spartanburg, S.C., Waffle House in which 19-year-old Dante Lamont Williams was shot and killed. Williams was shot after pointing his gun at an armed citizen. (Photo courtesy of WACH)

On Saturday, January 21, 2012, at a Waffle House in Spartanburg, S.C., a customer with a concealed weapon permit drew his handgun and verbally challenged two robbers, at least one of whom was armed with a handgun.

According to WACH, when the armed customer ordered the robbers to wait for the Spartanburg County Sheriff’s deputies to arrive, one of the robbers pointed his gun at the customer, who then fired his own gun, killing the armed robber, identified as 19-year-old Dante Lamont Williams. The second robber, identified as Kenneth Jowan Craig, 29, was later arrested and charged with armed robbery and possession of a weapon during a violent crime.

In this case, the only person shot was the armed robber who pointed his gun at the legally armed citizen. However, despite this relatively positive outcome, this incident brings to light several very real concerns. Remember, just because you’re armed doesn’t mean you have to take action. Taking action should not be “instinct,” but rather a reasonable decision made based on the specific factors surrounding your particular incident.

Deciding to engage two armed robbers is brave, but probably not very smart. In fact, even when there seems to be only one suspect, you better assume there are more. Situational awareness is a huge factor. Even after engaging a threat, you must train yourself to scan for additional threats. If you get so focused on the bad guy you just shot, you could very well be shot by his friend while you’re admiring your work.

Another controversial issue is giving verbal commands to an armed criminal. Action vs. reaction tells us when you do so, the bad guy will get the first round off most of the time. I’ve seen this in force-on-force scenarios, and it enables a bad guy with his muzzle lowered or pointed at his own head, for instance, to point the gun at you and squeeze of a round before you can pull the trigger – even when your gun is pointed at him and you’re ready to fire. If at all possible, issue verbal commands from behind cover.

In a crowded Waffle House, issuing a verbal command to two armed robbers could potentially endanger others inside the business. A verbal command might also prompt a gunfight which otherwise might not have occurred. Would the legally armed citizen in the Waffle House have been justified in shooting the armed robber without giving a verbal warning?

Consider these possibilities now so that you will have a plan should you find yourself in a similar situation. Of course, your plan will have to be flexible and take into account the “totality of the circumstances” surrounding the incident. Do yourself a favor and think about these things ahead of time. Don’t rely on marksmanship alone — that’s the “easy” part.


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I live in Spartanburg County and it was reported right after the robbery that one of the robbers was taking the employees into the back room and the one that was shot was telling the customers to lay on the floor. There has been robbers around here that they have killed the employees after taking them into the back and having customers get on the floor. The report I heard was the guy shot when he feared he was going to be shot and did not say any thing to the bad guy before shooting. I would have done the same thing, he doesn't have to give the guy robbing the place any verbal warning

I think Richard Nance needs to be mugged by a couple of fine folks like these. He has obviously never been threatened, since those kids in Jr High slapped him around and took his lunch money.

Regardless of the blather, this citizen dealt with an armed robbery and only a bad guy was harmed.