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Originally posted by Biebs:
Mike, you can play with your handguns all you want, but for home =defense, a combat shotgun is the way to go.

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Originally posted by vangulik:
Plenty of Manurhin MR 73 357 revolvers, both new and used, now available on the US market. A few are available with spare 9 mm cylinders. MR 73s are currently manufactured by Chapuis and imported by Ken Busch at Kebco and by J.J. Perodreau
MR 73 is the choice of the French GIGN, among the most proficient practical revolver shooters of all times. Standard GIGN training is 150 full power 158 gr rounds per day. The MR 73 can handle that for more than 100K rounds, while still delivering target quality accuracy. Not cheap at around $3K new or as new used, but less than the $6-$7K for a Korth.
The film l'assaut, available on line, shows the GIGN and the MR 73 in action dealing with terrorists holding an airplane filled with hostages.

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Originally posted by Peter:
Well, I have stayed out of this for long enough! Beretta, other than your CZ 75, are the other guns you are trying to shoot safe action guns? You should be able to shoot your CZ 75, but if not, have you tried using a pistol rest, like an MTM? If you dont have a pistol rest, do you have a rear bag rifle rest (the kind with rabbit ears.
I suggest you use such a rest, set up a standard slow (or rapid) fire bullseye target at 25 yards. the reason for this is that the aiming point (the black) is tailored for this distance. Use a 6 o'clock hold for the front sight, and center it in the rear sight. You do this by looking for the light on each side of the front sight. Then shoot a 5 shot group. By resting the gun and just focussing on the sight picture you should be able to shoot a recognizable group. The group the gun is capable of shooting is available from various gun tests done by the NRA. Just don't rest the barrel on the rest, only the frame, easier for a pistol than a revolver!
As I said above I think you should shoot a single action pistol with a decent trigger. This might explain your preference for a 9 mm revolver as I assume that you are shooting it single action.
As to the pump action shotgun, sorry but I am not going to give away my position to any intruder(s). They will find out soon enough!
Peter

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You might want to Google FBI Qualification course. You might be surprised. Personally I would not want to model my pistol shooting skill level on the local constabulary

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I think if you can master a double action revolver, then you can shoot any pistol instinctively, or so it seems to me

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Age, lack of flexibility and left eye dominance with high handed shooting really screwed up my handgun shooting. That and not shooting handguns for 2 plus decades.

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Originally posted by DLS:
For any of you living on the east coast or southeast, I highly recommend training at The Range Complex in Autryville, North Carolina. It’s just outside Fayetteville & Ft. Bragg; home of Army Special Forces. They have outstanding instructors and facilities. I live in California and I’ll be going back there again, I thought they were that good.

therangecomplex.com.