Folks,

I have recently come across something that seems like a scam to me and I would like to have your opinions. Those of you in law enforcement that would like to chime in with facts would be appreciated as well.

There is a guy I work with that is telling everyone that wants a Texas license that there is a program by which they can get a Utah license without being a Utah resident! Additionally no shooting qualification is necessary and no background check either and it is accepted in more states than the Texas license.

I find problems with this on many levels. Has anybody else heard of this? Am I off my rocker to think this is a scam? Falsifying a Govt document? Jail time?

Thanks for the replies-opinions and facts!

Andy

I don't know the details but I do know I sold a lot of guns (long-guns) to nevada residents who had Utah CFP's concealed-firearms-permit. I have been also told by several people that Utah's CFP is one of the most widely recognized and reciprocated permit.

I don't think Nevada recognizes Utah permits anymore. I could be way off base on what I'm saying here, just going off a weak and sometimes inaccurate memory. I do believe there are a lot of non-residents who get utah permits.

It's not a scam. It's a Utah non-resident concealed firearms permit. There is no falsifying of government documents or jail time involved. It's all legit. Utah also does a full FBI background check before issuing a CFP. It's also honored by 29 states.

But no longer honored by Nevada, due to the fact that no range test is involved. I agree with them, a range test should be involved. All we are required to do was show we could cycle a dummy round into and then make safe a revolver and semi-auto.

OK.......


What was the reasoning behind Utah creating non-resident permits?

Non-resident permits only make sense to me if I was going to vacation for an extended stay in Utah and my home state license was not recognised by the state of Utah.

Do any other states offer licenses for non-residents?

What little I know about non-resident licenses are hunting and fishing licenses and they are valid for a specific limited time period.

Then there is 90 day insurance that gets people out of tickets, but thats a whole 'nuther can o' worms.

Andy

Yes, other states have these also. I always thought that most CC folks actually have the FL license, as it is recognized in 30 states. Maybe FL is not the most common as I thought, but why fight it? Isn't being able to carry in 30 states a good thing, regardless of what it is named?

There are many ways to carry where you want based on who has resiprocity w/ whom.
My home state does not recognize an adjoining state, but two states over they recognize the adjoining state. To be legal in the adjoining state I get two permits. Carry out ad nausem...

In my case thank God for H.R. 218 which did away with a whole mismash of stuff LE had to deal w/, even when going out of state on official business.
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anybody have the list of states that recognize it?

States that honor Utah permits:

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming

This was copied from the website usacarrydotcom.

Washington State also issues non-resident carry permits, but you can't get one without showing up at the cop shop in person. Way easy to get, though, if you do. Again, there is no actual shooting test involved.

Oregon does NOT issue non-resident permits, but it does allow carry of a loaded firearm while "enroute to or from hunting or fishing activities". So, until I got a carry permit (some 20 years ago now), I just bought an Oregon fishing license and stowed my fly rod and tackle box in the vehicle. Oregon non-resident fishing licenses can be of different lengths, depending on how much you ante up. One such license is for an entire year, if you pay the full amount. Others are for as little as one day, another for ten days. You're never over 10 minutes from fishable water in western Oregon....