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Police said they're still investigating the incidents. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | ||
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Challenging a person for doing something suspicious could get one some legal issues one might not want to get into in some states. BUT Get the man some ammo so he can practice and there will NOT be any survivors on the bad guys side next time. The one thing I hate about these is the fact that I am betting "we" are paying for untold thousands of dollars in the best of medical care to care for these dregs of society after they are shot. Don't limit your challenges . . . Challenge your limits | |||
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I wonder what the legal standing of "challenging" is? The homeowner presumably did not know the store was robbed. Just saw suspicious behavior. In any case, I suspect that he was not expecting to get into a gunfight. I guess the rule is: when you pull a gun, expect the worst. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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No- I think the rule is "when you encounter a good guy with a gun, you're likely to lose." Homeowner was where he legally was allowed and put a stop to a crime. Period. Doug Wilhelmi NRA Life Member | |||
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In a follow up story on TV, by comparing surveillance tapes, police stated that the pair, one now deceased, were the perps in 3 or 4 other armed robberies in the area. The homeowner should get a reward, or, at least, a "good shoot" medal.  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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"Challenged" does not mean the homeowner pointed a gun at the man and forced him to stop. It certainly doesn't mean he fired the first shot. It could be something as simple as the homeowner yelling at the running man "What the hell are you doing in my backyard this time of night?" and then getting shot at himself. If it was anything like that, I'd say his return fire was righteous in every respect. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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Let us remember that Police in Texas are often hesitant to continuw a persut of a criminal suspect onto or across private property because of the rather lax "Rules of engagement" property owners are under in the lone star republic. If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Not in my experience. They pursue and catch them on private property all the time around here. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Ditto. I don't where that theory came from. The internet, I guess. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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It seems it all worked out rather well. | |||
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This is funny. I grew up about 6 streets away from Norwood Ct. In 1972 I pulled a shotgun on a heroin shithead (I pronounce it She-Thead in mixed company) in my garage at night. My dad came out with his pistol and my neighbor, a big-assed brick layer you didn't mess with, all held him for the police. I guarantee, in Hurst they appreciated help. After the police took him away (they had been after him for months looting open garages for power tools) my brother and I dismantled his 67 Nova he left parked in front of my house before the tow truck got there. You couldn't recognize it when we were finished. He got 7 years in a Texas prison. Hahahaha! Love thinking of that night. Wish I still had that 67 Nova, though. It was a 16 gauge Stevens single-shot that was my Uncle James that was killed Dec. 7, 1944 in the battle of Metz. Dutch | |||
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Had the homeowner grabbed his phone and dialed 911 before grabbing his gun, he might not have been shot. There are a myriad of other responses he could have made that would have been appropriate. He was stupid and he got shot. May have been perfectly legal, don't know, but stupid for sure. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Generally speaking the bad guy has the advantage mainly because he has nothing to lose as would a fine upstanding citizen, like police they are normally in a reactive shooting dilemma, not like a military situation where you shoot them all then sort them out In any case if you intervene you must be right, can't use the probable cause theory that the police are empowered to use NRA Life Member, ILL Rifle Assoc Life Member, Navy | |||
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