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Lessons Learned At A Convenience Store » Regardless of how good you feel about your skills, don’t let your arrogance or high self-opinion blind you to the fact that there could be someone out there who is smarter than you, faster than you or who has set http://src.personalliberty.com...914/395336186/302299 | ||
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It sure seems they are smarter than he is, he was next to his car and wife, armed and could have driven away and taken a leak down the road. I mean the first rule of survival is to disengage if possible. The article also doesn't say what happened, was the other car's occupants robbed, was he or his wife? Any guns displayed, shots fired, cops called, etc? I'm also curious as to what he planned to do with his carry gun when he boarded the airplane? xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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That's why I carry a Glock 19 with an extra loaded magazine. It is highly unlikely I will run out of ammo with 30 rounds at the ready.....in most situations...plus I also keep a loaded LCP .380 and a full box of .380 Speer GoldDot ammo in the glovebox for when I'm in shorts/tee shirt and I have to run into a store...it slips right into my front pocket so easy. In this story, I believe the kid changed his mind when the man reached behind his back and used a stern voice...he knew what was coming and did not want any part of it. The kid was smart alright...smart enough not to engage an armed man and get killed in the process! It really don't matter how many friends you have coming if you are the first to get shot!!! | |||
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I agree. He was saved by an initial assertive stance. Good education though. An extra mag is not that hard to carry in the back pocket! Cliff NRA Life Member CMP Distinguished Rifleman NRA Master, Short and Long Range | |||
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Certainly a troubling story and something to chew on. Up until now, I've considered myself in the "why would I possibly need more than 6 (or 7 or 8) shots in a defensive situation?" Makes a strong case for more ammo. A secondary thought is why the hell we live in a world that has become so depraved to the point where I have to consider arming myself to defend against TEN people at once. I'm not naive, but jeez... _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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My take is slightly different perhaps. After shooting the first 4 or 5 guys, do you really think the others are going to stick around just to get their revenge? I suggest that it is every man for himself and they would bug out falling over themselves in the attempt. If all 10 guys are intent on getting you in a coordinated attack can you really get off 10 rounds in maybe 1 1/2 seconds? With a reload? I think not. This is a situation with no real, close range, handgun solution IMHO! Peter Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Figure you'll miss eight times in ten. You likely won't but many policemen do and it's from them that we have the statistics. How many rounds do you want now? I carry 49 in two magazines for a Glock 19. | |||
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Current issues of Am. Rifleman and Am. Hunter in their "The Armed Citizen" page have a related experience from Reading, Pa. It doesn't note how many shots are fired, but judging from the hits and results, I'd say damn few.
I suspect, given the ending, that the stolen lottery tickets wouldn't have had any winners. It just wasn't their lucky day.  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Peter has it right above, if you kill or hit the first one or two attackers, it will be a damn rare individual who wants to be the third. Stopping a riot or robbery doesn't require killing all the rioters, just a few will do it, and in short order. I suspect the number of times that a civilian individual, carrying concealed, has fired more than a magazine of shots in the course of self defense would number in the single digits, if that. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I know of one incident that went 105 rounds. I know a local incident that involved more than a dozen guys shooting multiple magazines each. I imagine it has happened a lot more than you'd think. | |||
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Source them and are they individuals, not PD? xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Some good comments there, what was the Rest Of The Story? Obviously the person relating the story lived, but what happened after he exited the rest room? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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No one ever died from having TOO MUCH ammunition. | |||
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I would have displayed my Glock 40 as my wife was dialing 911 from inside the store and requested them to all dismount and start hugging asphalt.. Then, as they approached me I would have shot the biggest one. 99 times out of 100 there would have been an empty parking lot in less than ten seconds. | |||
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Reading, Pa is one of the worst cities for crime...per capita. About 55,000 and 20,000 are Hispanic...and many illegals. What would one expect with all of the drugs and gangland nonsense. The city can't keep a cop for more than a year...at best, and they go thru chiefs more than McDonalds does burger flippers. No way would I even travel thru there w/o being armed to the teeth. To think I used to work there 30 yrs ago when it was a thriving city....now it is the pits. In any event, crime being committed these days is typically more violent and brazen than in the recent past so going anywhere unarmed is a huge mistake.....big town, small city or metro area.....makes no difference. | |||
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Yes , things have been changing. Now even in the most rural areas there are drugs. Now there are illegals ,etc, etc. I laugh every time I hear " that never happens in this neighborhood " Not until today !! Welcome to the real world. | |||
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