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I'd hate to be a cop carrying one of these......I can imagine the attorney's after an officer actually had to kill someone...."But why didn't you use the Less Lethal device, after all he only had a pocket knife...., etc., etc."
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And now the City of Ferguson will soon go bankrupt as a result of lawsuits against it because of broken ribs, bruised groins, etc, etc, etc. The lawyers are watching this development and drooling and rubbing themselves in private places and smiling. NRA Life Member DRSS-Claflin Chapter Mannlicher Collectors Assn KCCA IAA | |||
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I have a saying for Ferguson....Less Thugs, More Peace. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Well, that development will be the end of the Ferguson PD, IMHO. Any officer with smarts will leave the department and recruitment will be zip. Talk about a department shooting itself in the foot (no pun intended). | |||
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Ferguson, the once non-lethal St. Louis suburb, where my mother grew up, is now just one more added to the endless list of "communities" trashed by (the police??). It was probably the cops that were trying to burn down some buildings at the time of the incident? ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Let's see if I got this? A criminal is trying to kill me and I NEED to take the time to change ammo so I don't hurt him too bad? In the time I'm decision making and changing ammo, he can finish killing me. Less lethal to me means shooting you 3 times with my .45 instead of 2 times with my 10 gauge shotgun loaded with 19 pellets of 00 in each shell. (That is the same OO load that you get in 4 three inch 12 gauge shells). Understand my thinking? | |||
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We went through this nonsense about lessthan lethal before .Where I come from BGs paint real guns like fakes and fake guns like real !! The cop who sees a problem has to make a FAST decision. No time to think of all the possibilities. The bean bag rounds were one type but at long range were in effective but at close range they were devastating ! People need to teach their kids about reality, attack a cop and he shoots you ! | |||
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I buy Rem 3 inch 00 12 that has 15 pellets per round so 4 of those would be 60 | |||
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ok, didn't know they made that load. | |||
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Pattern your shotguns with buckshot. I've found lighter loads actually pattern better. Now that doesn't matter much at 15 feet, if that is the intended use. | |||
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I use 000 Buck patterns better than the smaller 00 in my shotgun, hits harder as well _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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And the lawsuit by the widow when the cop shot someone with this POS and the perp killed him. | |||
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Less lethal to me is full metal jacket as opposed to hollow-point, but the HNI .. no I won't do that ... Grand Poopah in Charge says full metal jackets should be banned. Go figure. | |||
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An officer can use a Taser when appropriate. If that doesn't work the officer still has a weapon available. This thing seems like trouble. | |||
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When time is of great importance use the most effective tool...a bullet generally works better Cops enjoy excitement but only to a certain extent, that occurs when self preservation becomes apparent and this decision may only take a fraction of a second....would you waste that fraction of a second on anything less than the most proven and effective tool? 16 shot semi trumps a single burn from a taser especially if the clothing prevents skin contact Why not allow people to carry tasers instead of hand guns? In Illinois you can carry a firearm but not a taser....doesn't make sense but I am not a politician NRA Life Member, ILL Rifle Assoc Life Member, Navy | |||
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How long until a cop gets killed because he has that thing on his gun when what he needs to save his life is multiple bullets right this second. I could easily see some members of the public demanding the cops keep this "condom" on their gun until it is really determined deadly force is needed. On the other hand, I'll bet we are not that far away from the invention of a gizmo that works really well without killing people. Maybe a tazer that nails everybody within a 10ft radius or something. Sand Creek November 29 1864 | |||
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Um, the goal of police shootings is not to kill but to stop the actions of the criminal. Whether the suspect lives or dies is up to the E/R docs. | |||
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Every policeman I see anymore is laden with a nightsticks, tasers, pepper spray etc. This contraption doesn't add anything it detracts from the most effective weapon they have. | |||
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