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I like to kayak. The public launches are often remote and not very secure. Recently there was a "mugging" at one of these. I am looking for a way of carrying a gun with me so that I have some protection, just in case. I do not expect to fall in the river, but protection from casual water would be required.
Any thoughts, suggestions?
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Personally, I wouldn't worry if the gun gets a little wet. You can always dry it off and wipe it down with a light coat of oil.

I'd rather do that and risk the possibility of rust than try to carry in a protected holster and not be able to quickly get my handgun out and on target!
 
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Valid point shof. However I do also need a secure way of carrying it so that it doesn't just "fall out", but is also relatively concealed. So, the typical concealed carry holster that I own probably won't do. Typically I would be wearing shorts, teashirt and a life vest of some kind.
A quick search showed some waterproof type bags that I guess one wore over a shoulder or something.
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Stainless steel then dry afterwards.
 
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Understand p dog, but I would probably use a revolver and I have rarely taken off the side plates! I would be very concerned about rust and corrosion in the hidden places! Semi autos I can handle but revolvers are cheaper and IMHO handier.
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If to worried I just put mine in zip lock bag in a fanny pack
 
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"just put mine in zip lock bag in a fanny pack"
Now THAT sounds like what I was looking for! Thanks! I could probably even pull the trigger while the gun was in the bag!!
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Some times simple works well.
 
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I want to have a revolver on me when I use my paddle board. Not afraid of any humans - its in the lake in my back yard.

The issue is there are a few 8 ft plus gators. With a paddle board it it possible I sneak up on one without the gator or me knowing.

Any suggestions ? Summer is coming.

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Don't make the gators mad Eeker

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I refuse to paddleboard with 8 ft. gators. Call it discrimination or whatever, but I am not going to do it!
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The issue is there are a few 8 ft plus gators. Any suggestions?


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I have carried a 1911 in 45 ACP in lots of different places. I have stepped out of airplanes at above ninteenfive, and been under water at below 185. I have carried a 1911 under water, and in the water many times.
I always used US Military 230 gr ball. I never had a single round fail to fire. Military ball ammo is sealed at the bullet and at the primer.
I have shot a 1911 under water a few times and it always worked 100%...
JUST dry your gun out ASAP, to prevent rust.


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Water proof fanny pack. No need for a zip lock bag, the gun is ready to go and protected from "casual water" while inside the water proof fanny pack. I use them all the time when on the beach in Kalifornia and while kayaking in Hawaii. A 3" S&W Chief's Special fits nicely inside. There are many good ones out there.


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Stainless or chrome won't matter if they get wet or not.


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Um, a stainless steel firearm will rust if water is left upon the surface for an extended period of time.
 
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Um, a stainless steel firearm will rust if water is left upon the surface for an extended period of time.


What do you call an extended period of time.


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I left a stainless rifle wet in and out of a case for four days just to test it.

Not a mark on it after the 4 days is that extended enough I wonder.
 
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The issue is there are a few 8 ft plus gators. Any suggestions?


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I like the gators in the lake in my backyard. I don't feed them or anything like that - that is just stupid. I have way too much cypress for them to come towards the house. Little babies do but not the big ones.

The issue is paddle boarding or kayaking on the lake. I have on one occasion bumped into one while on a kayak. The gator reacted by diving to the bottom - the problem is physical act of diving actually causes the gator back and tail to rise and there is a good size swirl. The kayak is fine - its stable with the only issue being some water coming in. The paddle board I would fall off and that is where i am worried. Also the paddle board is very quite so I think there is a bigger risk of bumping a gator.

Don't know if revolver would provide much protection.

Gator bumping versus paddle board - trade offs.

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I will attempt to dig up the old American Rifleman test that showed the rusting that occurred on a S&W Model 60 after being exposed to moisture.
 
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I will attempt to dig up the old American Rifleman test that showed the rusting that occurred on a S&W Model 60 after being exposed to moisture.


I have hunted in the rain many thimes with blued steel without drama, your mileage may vary.

I'm know that stainless is not rust proof, but it is rust resistant.


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I spend most of the summer on the water ( fresh). My Glock 27 goes with me daily, under a T shirt and PFV, ammo is premium LE stuff, most is now sealed at both ends for duty use ( Fed HST etc).

Use the compressor to blow it dry w/ fld strip, Rem Oil with moisture guard or frog lube. It is nearing 20 years on my hip now , has bare SS showing trough the tenifer or whatever they call it (salt bath nitride), no rust, springs are replaced every other year. Always goes bang.

No fancy water tight bags or whatever- when you need your sidearm, you need it now!. It carries in a SERPA by Blackhawk for the past five or seven years.

Carried M9s and M11s same way for a few decades in uniform, no rust ever. Just dry and lube regularly.

Don't sweat it with a SS gun, espc if all springs and internals are SS and salt bath nitrided ( as in Glocks).

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I still haven't purchased a water proof fanny pack. Most of the ones I have seen are:
too small for a handgun,
transparent material
not as waterproof as I would like, based on published reviews.
Remember I am not just going to be "around water" I will be ON it, with a definite possibility that I will be IN it up to my eye balls.
I expect to be carrying a SS Taurus 22mag revolver.
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I would think this would be big enough

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Mike, that was one of the ones I looked at. Most of these seem rather "flat" ie designed for cell phones etc. Revolvers are a little "wider" for want of a better term. Many reviews of the different kinds comment on the small size. I am still looking however.
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