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Something that caught my eye the other at the pro-shoppe was the humongous revolver with a short barrel. Specialist said they were designed for carry for self defense against dangerous game like bears and cougars (mountain lion.)  This example of a .500 S&W in a 4" (10.2cm) barrel is supposedly a classic example. Is it practical for this purpose? -------------------- EGO sum bastard ut does frendo | ||
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To answer your question with another question: Can you see yourself shooting such a cannon with one hand? I can't. Perhaps you're a he-man Paul Bunyan type that easily can. | |||
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After many years of IPSIC, I instinctively go to the Weaver position with any pistol on the draw, so that is really not an issue. But good point. -------------------- EGO sum bastard ut does frendo | |||
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It is hard to go to Weaver if you are on your back or on your face. You might not know you have animal trouble till you are knocked down. I have a Freedom Arms 475 Linebaugh. It is a Hunting gun, not a bear Protection gun IMHO. It just has too much recoil to shoot it one handed, esecially from an awkward wrist angle. A 300gr bullet in a S&W 44 Mag Mountain Gun is as much recoil as I want to take with an awkward hand/wrist position. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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my pocket gun is a Taurus 450 ultralite. titanium frame with cut down hogue grips in .45 Colt. The big bullet makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. | |||
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The 500 S&W with a 4 inch barrel is bordering on ridiculous and the one with a 2 inch barrel is definitely ridiculous. If you've never shot a 500 S&W, I'd suggest borrowing one to shoot before you buy. You may fine the muzzle blast and recoil are a bit more than you would want to experience many times. | |||
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Interesting verbiage. I do have a friend who shoots a large (longer barrel .500) and he likes it. However, looking again I came up with this 629 which is $300 cheaper and I already load .44 special and magnum with 240 grain hollow points. I have a scoped 629 6" that I use for hunting, but it's too big for casual carry. I also have a Ruger 77/44 that is a heavy hitter for short range brush and white tail. My niece and nephew like to target shoot the .44 special in the Ruger. So the N-Frame 629 Snubbie may make sense for a light carry woods self defense weapon. What say you to this?  -------------------- EGO sum bastard ut does frendo | |||
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Barrel is too short to provide combustion for 44 mag. Short grips on this Smith are going to be hard to hold. I have a 629 with a 4" barrel I use in the field, full size Pachmayr. Good to shoot, but it's hardly "concealed carry." | |||
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I think that makes a lot more sense. Regarding the short barreled 500 S&W there are several problems besides the blast and recoil. With a short barrel, the "brake" is about worthless. It only holds 5 rounds and the thickness of the cylinder is more that with a 6 round 44 Magnum cylinder. Actually, one of my favorite concealed carry guns is a 44 Magnum Ruger Redhawk with a 5 inch barrel. It's quite concealable in a cross draw holster if you're wearing a coat. | |||
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My minimum woods protection round would be a hard cast 44 Mag 240gr hard cast at 1100fps. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I used those for years, but the local caster got lead poisoning and passed away. Been using Montana Gold Hollow Points in revolvers and Round Nose in .45 ACP. These are not a premium bullet, but they meet the needs for small game and practice. Considerably cheaper and available in 3K lots, which last a long time. Except for Self Defense loads in Compact .45 where I use "garbage Can lids." Probably would use similar high performance rounds in woods gun.  Smith makes an alloy frame pistol, but I have always gone on the assumption that those puppies are made for carry and not for shooting. I believe a pistol needs to be shot. Of course, Titanium properly alloyed can be stronger than steel. -------------------- EGO sum bastard ut does frendo | |||
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I have carried a 629 "mountain " in 44 mag for years -one of the early runs of them I really like the light 4 in barrel. Its been in the mountains w/me from Canada to the Rio Grande. If I could have only one pistol(God forbid) it would be that lil 44. BTW round butt Pachmyers on it. Currently carry it in a chest holster. SSR | |||
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I have and carry a S&W L frame 44spl, the Model 696. It's the first issue (dash nothing) and was Magna Ported by the factory. I know it's omnly a 5 shot, but with the 3" stainless gun loaded with the 255 grain "Kieth" loads from Buffalo Bore ammo, I don't feel undergunned in the field at all. It is a lot easier to carry than my 625 Pre lock) in 45 Colt that also has a 3" barrel and the N frame. I like them both, but will probably sell off the 625. ______________________ Guns are like parachutes. If you need one and don't have one, you'll likely never need one again Author Unknown, But obviously brilliant. If you are in trouble anywhere in the world, an airplane can fly over and drop flowers, but a helicopter can land and save your life. - Igor Sikorski, 1947 | |||
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Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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This pocket rocket weighs 19 ounces empty! | |||
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You're overgunned again !!  I see that Kahr has a special edition pistol with PINK polymer frame for you girls ! Kimber has announced a sub-compact 9mm , the "Solo". The original 125 gr 357 loads in a short barrel was said to blind and deafen the BG even if you missed him. I wonder what that short 500S&W does !!  | |||
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Perhaps that .500 is what us engineers call a solution looking for a problem. Here is a picture that tells the story, comparing the X-frame to the N-Frame. I will probably go with the N-frame snubbie.  Here is the .500 again with some .375 H&H.  Yep, sometimes enough is sufficient! -------------------- EGO sum bastard ut does frendo | |||
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