I know which rifle and ammo I would use for a chamois and tahr hunt.

But what is the best chopper to hire as my Kiwi "hunting/shooting" platform?

Which is the best in terms of noise reduction to least scare away whopper trophies, most stable place to shoot from, best and easiest to alight from for the all important trophy bragging photos?



..... Some more sh*t stirring .....

Sounds like an electric one may suit but I don't know if it will fit your "image"!!

Come on John, don,t keep us in suspense - whats the rifle??

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Originally posted by MLG:


Come on John, don,t keep us in suspense - whats the rifle??

45/70 loaded with ballistic tips

Have you considered a hang glider?

I would go for one of those big Russian heavy-lift type choppers . Lots of capacity to lift the kitchen table , a fridge , and microwave up there , also room for your entire battery of guns so all ranges and game species would be catered for . You could also take a servant to go and retrieve anything you actually managed to wound to the extent that it died from loss of blood , whilst you sat and drank claret and smoked a Cuban cigar in celebration of your great hunt .

Yes - I am taking the piss out of you John-boy .
Put your pet hobby-horse out to pasture for another year and move on to something more productive - or give up drinking so much of your own vineyard product ...

Which ones have the most comfortable leather seats? Preferably with foot rest.

Are they better camoflaged in green or sky blue? Perhaps white, so they blend in with the snow when 'parked'?

Actually I would like to have a go shooting ferals and vermin from a chopper, but not game animals and definitely not "hunting".

Here is one for Muzza. See it is not just the Kiwis.

From a post back in 2003 I made about a "Top End" "outfitter" by the name of Mark Sullivan! Only a coincidence BTW.
"Mark Sullivan hunting in Aust"




"Because of our exclusive access to pristine locations via helicopters, this safari is unique in itself as it guarantees a trophy buffalo in one day ! and a full comprehensive hunt in four days."



Proud hunter posing with his trophy and his 'hunting' tools - rifle and chopper .

Your right not the same Mark Sullivan
Though the Mark Sullivan you are refering to
hunted buffalo boars and goats several times
on his own in northern Australia in the early 1980'S Mark also owned a hunting
consession in BC for several years. I find it strange how so many people want to point fingers and make statements about someone they
have never stood eye to eye with and know nothing about?

RM007

My post has nothing to do with the US and Tanzania Mark Sullivan. That is why I mentioned it "as a co-incidence".

Sorry

I doubt if there is a chopper made with a door of sufficient size to get your big head through - ya smug $^%&*(

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Originally posted by Tentman:
I doubt if there is a chopper made with a door of sufficient size to get your big head through - ya smug $^%&*(

Tentman

Don't get upset. Muzza tells me "hunting" by chopper is perfectly fine in NZ, so lets go for it and do it the best way we can.

Any personal recommendations for a chopper. What do you fly? If door size is an issue perhaps one with a large hydraulic ramp at the back like the Russians use. Could probably put my shooting bench on the ramp and use a bench rest rifle too.

Hmmmm

I've never used a chopper or anything better than a horse and shanks pony from a road end.

The point is that ethics are what you make of it yourself. Most of us can get all we need to eat from the supermarket, and its arguably more humane to have professionals cull excess wild animals, you'd have to be careful that you don't get to saying that hunting itself is unnecessary and possibly unethical.

To say someone is unethical just because the means they use is the most up to date tool that mankind has devised is in my opinion intellectually dishonest (Nitro you do use a firearm don't you, I figuure that a logical extension of your argument is that we should all hunt with a pointed stick or something)

Cheers - Foster

I think a Minigun mounted on my chopper would be more fitting to the sport.

How long are you going to do the spoilt-kid-not-getting-your-own-way routine John?

From where I am positioned you are looking like a bigger prat by the day . Go back to your private website and rant there , this whole performance isnt doing anyone any good and it surely isnt winning you many friends on this side of the Tasman Sea.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions , and I think we all know what yours is now so why not just drop it and get on with your life - preferably somewhere else.

I don't think Nitro X will ever hunt in TEXAS as our style of hunting-from blinds and using feeders- is not manly enough for a ruff tuff wanna be Jungle Jim. I believe in NZ or As. he would be called a arse ? Here he would be a FUCKIN ASSHOLE.

More personal abuse from little Muzza.

Personal abuse is always the mark of a weak argument.

As for the other guys, I wonder when they will be man enough to post their photos of their chamois and tahr with the chopper nicely framed behind.

Muzza,

When you throw personal abuse do you think that will stop or only encourage taking it to a new level?

Maybe we need to post the advertisements from outfitters web pages, from sale catalogues of deer breeders wanting to sell tame breeding stags to "hunters" etc etc.

Maybe I should make it a true personal crusade to expose what is common practice in the "land of the long white canned hunt".

As for winning friends on that side of the Tasman, I think YOU are in the minority. I doubt many Kiwi hunters that hunt for themselves see the dollar making industry of chopper hunting as admirable at all. Why are you so supportive if you say you do not do it or make money of it?

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RM007

Got a chopper photo somewhere to share perhaps?

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laredokid

I don't ever remember mentioning "blinds' and "feeders". Learn to read what is actually written. Why are you so defensive? Why the personal abuse?

BTW can you shoot whitetail deer out of the open door of a chopper in good ole-Texas?

john
in use jamie scott from fox glacier, uses a
H 500... small fast&monoverable ..and a good pilot in the box ....PICK YOUR PILOT!!!!!!
daniel

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Originally posted by M 98:
john
in use jamie scott from fox glacier, uses a
H 500... small fast&monoverable ..and a good pilot in the box ....PICK YOUR PILOT!!!!!!
daniel

Go one further, get an MD 520 NOTAR, the quietest helo available on the civilian market.

Gentlemen,

Very funny. Your humour is appreciated.

BTW gryphon has posted comments on another thread from a Kiwi hunting forum -




(Yes I was being a little sarcastic on this thread)

nitrox
Never shot anything out of a helio
Haven't had the pleasure of hunting New Zeland
Climbed a few mts in my youngr days in Alaska and BC for goat. Back pack hunt 21 days in BC
Zim, Botswana 85 87 and 88 and have the uncanny abality to spot someone full of shit

Nitro, while it is often done in NZ, shooting any game animal from the chopper is a . That's culling to me, but to each his own.
I am fortunate to have hunted Tahr in NZ 3-4 years ago. 1st day we did it the old fashioned way, hiked all the way up & down the mountain, toughest hunting I have ever done. No shot & only about 1hr of usefull hunting time once you are up where the bulls are. Day two found me a bit gimpy from the long haul so we took a chopper ride up to the top & hunted down. Much easier, but we did not use the chopper for spotting, we had seen Tahr the day before so got a drop of on the back side near where we had seen bulls before. Still no shot. Day 3 we hiked up again & I was fortunate enough to get a shot after only going half way up. One of the best hunts I've had, saw Tahr every day, but shooting one from a helo would have ruined it for me.

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Originally posted by RM007:
.. have the uncanny abality to spot someone full of shit

Stop staring into the mirror, man! You don't need anymore practice.

As for never having hunted NZ then ... (ie armchair ... )



(PS I love it when AR members who use anonymous profiles act like a man )

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Originally posted by fredj338:
Nitro, while it is often done in NZ, shooting any game animal from the chopper is a . ..... One of the best hunts I've had, saw Tahr every day, but shooting one from a helo would have ruined it for me.

Fred

I am glad to hear and it was great for you to have this experience.

New Zealand was and hopefully still is the world's hunters' paradise in my view.

John the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence,i would still be living in OZ if it was not for the dam gun laws.

Maybe we could find a nice Pacific atoll (used for French nuclear bomb testing) for John Howard and Helen Clark to holiday (permanently) on.

nitrox
Nothing anonymous about my profile
RM007 is me R Michael Bond

RM007 therefore the "007".