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Has anyone hunted in NZ with Richard? If so, any comments? Thanks. | ||
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Anyone interested in hunting with him should PM me. He is a major problem. | |||
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I take it your hunt didn't go according to plan Larry? ------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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I didn't go. From what I am told, he has not paid the landowners for any of the prior hunts. He owes them a bundle. The police are investigating him. He is wanted on various fraud charges unrelated to this. Again, from what I am told, he owes in excess of $100,000 on those charges. He supposedly owes in excess of $100,000 to the various providers on hunts conducted this year. There are numerous problems on hunts this year. The duck hunt aspect of my proposed hunt was after duck season has closed. According to the landowner, there are no stags on his property of the size that he indicated that I would kill. He has $12,000 of my money. Of that amount, I would say that $6,000 is outright stolen. Long story. I canceled this week. I feel 100% certain that my $12,000 is gone for good. | |||
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Sorry to hear that Larry. I hope they get him and you get your money back. ------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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Thanks. i hope we all get paid but I doubt it will happen. | |||
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You want to pm me some details and I will see what information I can find on the guy for you. No promises ,but the spy network reaches most places in NZ... ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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I would like to publicly thank Muzza for his assistance. I am filing a civil suit against Mr Nunnick. Further, the police are doing a criminal investigation. Stay away from Richard Nunnick. | |||
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Thats ok mate . It doesnt do any of us any good to see another guy ripped off by someone posing as a professional guide. I hope it all works out for you in the end. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Thanks. If it doesn't, I am going to make sure he has some sleepless nights worrying about it. He has screwed a bunch of people. larry. | |||
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I just got word that the police are definitely going to prosecute Mr Nunnick for theft. Thanks again Muzza for your help. You may want to pass this along to your friends. Larry | |||
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Real shame this has happen to you Larry,i do hope this has not put you off hunting in new Zealand. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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Not at all. I am going anyway and have just completed arrangements with another company. | |||
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Great job Larry. Hang in there! If this had been posted on the African Hunting forum, Richard's buddies (even those who didn't know him(!)) would be out after your blood, defending him and saying "there are always two sides to every story!". Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Thanks to Muzza, I have found the following link with a lot of information about this prick Richard Nunnick. http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1211533330 I am clearly not the only one he screwed. | |||
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Any one interested should recheck the link referred to above. It has gotten very interesting and seems that it will become more so soon. | |||
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Its like an episode of Columbo. Hope its not too traumatic Regards, Bob. | |||
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Seems you are making good progress with this whole sorry saga Larry. As a guide in this country its always bad to get reports that there is a rogue in our industry. The word is certainly out and about in most circles now BUT way to late to help out those that got ripped off by this guy. Question is what can be done to assure hunters that it won't happen again. Is it possible to stop this sort of thing. Good job Muzza | |||
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Gidday Larry, This arsewipe got front page top billing on the saturday paper today. He really is a prize peice of donkey doo. he has taken more than you mate. Its a pity he didn't do this to a made man who would give him a set of concrete boots. I hope they get him but I think your money is done though I am sad to say. This prick is real parasite. I wish I could do more for you mate. Happy Hunting Hamish | |||
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Thank you. I also doubt I will ever see my money. However,I have certainly made his life miserable. The newspaper article. Radio. A thread on HuntnFish that has been viewed by about 12,000. A lawsuit. It is going to be harder for him to do this next time. | |||
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I just got an e mail from the police telling me that Richard was arrested and charged with 2 counts of fraud in connection with what he did to me. it is a good day. | |||
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Is he the rooster that was ripping women off among many others? Happy hunting | |||
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Email from the police? That's nice! Good Job! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Yes he is the same one taking the women for a ride. Thank you Peter. | |||
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I just got word this evening that I won the lawsuit against this prick Richard Nunnick. The judge awarded me US$6,000 plus about NZ$5,000 for costs. I only sued for half of what he stole from me as this amount was very easily proved. | |||
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A welcomed outcome but no doubt a shallow victory. Has he the $$ to pay? there are a queue of people behind you waiting. May we never see the likes of him again. | |||
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Thats good news Larry. I doubt I would be spending that money till I had it in my bank account tho ...I'm just too much of a cynic to expect Mr Numnuts to pay up any of it freely. Time will tell. Hope it all works out tho. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Congrats Larry. I'm a bit of a cynic just like Muzza. I hope you get the $$ mate. ------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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Another NZ Outfitter just "Bellied Up" Called "Back Country" I did notice a post where someone on this forum had booked a hunt with them. Hopefully you have alraedy completed your hunt, or you are on the case with retreiving your deposit. ...."At some point in every man's life he should own a Sako rifle and a John Deere tractor....it just doesn't get any better...." | |||
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How do you know that? Just wondering? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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A fantastic conclusion Larry old mate...there are a few more of these so called professional outfitters/guides about that havent delivered the goods.... or in plain speak..."ripped/ or attempted to rip clients off" that will eventually be weeded out of the game from the obvious feedback that abounds online. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Quite so, John. Some of these people obviously don't think that we talk amongst ourselves... Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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This prick was sentenced yesterday. He got 6 months house arrest, 150 hours of community service and was order to pay me $40 per week. At least it is something. | |||
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ah this is good,and the results need to be posted wherever these people ply their trades. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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The Hunting Report is getting ready to publish an article on Mr Nunnick's activities. Perhaps I can figure out how to post it here. | |||
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Well at least you got a result which is the main thing. Good on you for taking it through. Happy hunting | |||
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PUBLISHED IN THE HUNTING REPORT YESTERDAY If you travel to hunt, you inevitably share your adventures with kindred spirits whose company you enjoy both in the field and back at camp. You form bonds and befriend other hunters and guides with whom you’ve shared memorable moments. And with the modern advent of email, you can easily stay in touch with them. Many such friendships last for years and lead to new and exciting hunting opportunities, as some of these guides become hunting operators themselves. As friends, you agree to support them with repeat hunts and recommendations to other friends. Unfortunately, every so often one of these guides turns out to be a scoundrel, taking their friends for thousands of dollars. Hunting Report subscriber Larry Shores reports that’s exactly what he experienced with New Zealand guide Richard Nunnick, who was just convicted of three counts of fraud in a Christchurch District Court. Shores says he met Nunnickabout six years ago at Glenroy Lodge, where he experienced a flawless hunt. “Nunnick and I hit it off,” Shores says. “I found him to be pleasant, competent, hardworking and jovial. We stayed in contact via e-mail. I liked Nunnick immensely.” In November of 2006, Nunnick contacted Shores with news that he had terminal cancer. Shores spent several thousand dollars on airline tickets for Nunnick and his girlfriend to attend his annual Christmas party in Orlando, Florida, as he thought it would be the last time he’d see his friend. Nunnick never showed up, claiming he was not medically cleared to fly. Some months later, Nunnick told Shores that he was undergoing experimental treatments that were effectively reducing the size of his inoperable tumor. By mid 2007, he claimed to be well enough to take Shores hunting. In late November 2007, Shores sent Nunnick a $6,000 check for a deposit on a hunt. Nunnick told him the New Zealand banks wanted to hold the check for a total of three weeks. Shores agreed to wire him another $6,000 and asked Nunnick to simply tear up the check. Soon after Shores wired the money, the original $6,000 check cleared the bank. Five months later, after several attempts to get his money back and receiving numerous promises and excuses, Shores was still out $12,000. He had also learned that Nunnick had yet to pay the deposit to the landowner for his upcoming hunt. Other things turned up wrong as well, such as the duck shooting Nunnick included in the deal. Shores learned the season was closed during his hunting dates. And while Nunnick promised a red stag of a particular size, the landowner told Shores he did not have any such stags on the property where the hunt was to take place. Before all of this came to light, Shores had arranged a long-distance introduction between Nunnick and booking agent John Barth of Adventure Unlimited, a longtime friend of Shores. “Larry is a very thorough person,” Barth says. “He vouched for Nunnick and that was all I needed at the time.” Barth proceeded to book several clients with Nunnick. The first hunt was a freerange stag hunt that was problemfree. The second hunt, for a highgold stag and several other animals, had some issues. While the third hunt was taking place, the landowner involved, Neville Cunningham of Mt. Cook Trophy Hunting, informed Barth that Nunnick owed him $50,000. Laurie and Malcolm Prouting of Mesopotamia Station, another hunting property involved, had not been paid either. Due to the efforts of Cunningham and Barth, the New Zealand police opened two fraud investigations against Nunnick. Turns out not only did Nunnick scam Shores, Barth, other hunters and landowners, but he also had a history of financially scamming women. A New Zealand newspaper portrays Nunnick as a Casanova-type who wooed sympathetic women online then scammed them out of room and board, plus money, with a bogus story about, you guessed it, a terminal cancer diagnosis. Last October, Shores won a judgment against Nunnick for just over $11,000. He has yet to see a penny of it. Some months after that, Barth, Cunningham and the Proutings came to an agreement about the release of the trophies after much time-consuming efforts and great expense on everyones part. Cunningham says that despite not having been fully paid for the trophies he felt he had little option but to do so for the sake of his and New Zealand's reputation as a hunting destination. Just recently, Nunnick was convicted of fraud – two counts of “obtaining by deception” and one for “using a document dishonestly.” His sentence? Six months home detention, 150 hours community service, and an order to pay a total of NZ$45,169 in reparations at a rate of $40 a week to two of the complainants. Some, including Shores, would say that justice was hardly served here. “I am a pretty savvy guy who has been around the block more than a few times,” Shores says. “There has never been anyone that has fooled me like Richard did. He is a very slippery character as it ends up.” Here at The Hunting Report, I have seen this scenario more than once. Not just among hunters, but among international anglers too when I worked with Don Causey on his other publication, The Angling Report. The camaraderie and bonding of kindred souls in a hunting or fishing camp has a way of disabling some of the defenses we usually erect when it comes to business dealings and financial transactions in our professional lives. We somehow expect a system of Old World honor in our hunting and fishing friendships. Unfortunately, we cannot count on that, as evidenced by the likes of Nunnick. So, do we abandon such relationships, or keep these friendships at arm’s length? Refuse to make financial commitments or help with personal recommendations? I would say, no. We don’t need to be that severe. But we do need to apply the same rigorous standards of evaluation to guiding and outfitting “friends” that we do to any other business contact or venture. The old adage about money and friendship not mixing applies here. Business is business. Always treat it as such, even when it’s a friend. – Barbara Crown, Editor. | |||
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