I'm off to New Zealand to hunt Red Stag and had a question. Has anyone had any experience bringing your cape and horns back with you. Is that possible or do you have to go through the same process as bringing capes back from Africa? And if you do have to use shipping/receiving agents what might the cost be?

Mate if you are going in through Christchurch and you have a few days to get your trophies prepped before you fly.... you can drop them off at HardingExpediting ... they will prep for export and get you the paperwork.

It will cost a bit extra to get it done urgently but you may save in the long-run.

You can contact Geoff, Joy or Ben on email jharding4@gmail.com before the hunt to get prices and such...

Hope this helps

Cheers
Matt

Thanks Matt for the info. I've sent off an email to the folks at HardingExpediting.

If you get it tanned in NZ it'll be easier to get back into the country. I believe the only taxidermist that can recieve raw capes is Gary Pegg?

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Originally posted by Bakes:
If you get it tanned in NZ it'll be easier to get back into the country. I believe the only taxidermist that can recieve raw capes is Gary Pegg?

anybody can receive raw capes with the right paperwork mate - depends a bit on the country of origin though and New Zealand is fine.

I was assuming that huntelkrc is a North American rather than an Aussie - but even if he is an Aussie my advice still stands.

Pretty easy to bring salted capes and skulls into Aust or USA - but the skulls will have to be treated of course and the more paperwork you have with you the better.

once apon a time we used to be able to "pre order" your expediting paper work. If we knew you were due to leave on a certain date and you came to hunt certain animals bingo we sent of to MAF and the job was a good in.
Now its all but impossible as you cannot get the paper work checked off in time, reasons are many and varied but rule are rules. Go thru an establish taxidermist or expediter here in NZ. Not nice hearing that your customs guys in the US have just destroyed your trophies due to a lack of certificate of origin etc.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Bakes:
If you get it tanned in NZ it'll be easier to get back into the country. I believe the only taxidermist that can recieve raw capes is Gary Pegg?

anybody can receive raw capes with the right paperwork mate - depends a bit on the country of origin though and New Zealand is fine.

Not quite right Matt. Untanned hides from the majority of countries are required to go to a Class 3 Quarantine Approved premisies for tanning. New Zealand is one of only about 10 countries that doesnt have to meet these requirements.

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Originally posted by Oscar270:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
anybody can receive raw capes with the right paperwork mate - depends a bit on the country of origin though and New Zealand is fine.

Not quite right Matt. Untanned hides from the majority of countries are required to go to a Class 3 Quarantine Approved premisies for tanning. New Zealand is one of only about 10 countries that doesnt have to meet these requirements.

I thought the 'depends on the country of origin' bit made that clear!!! The topic is about New Zealand trophies.

What are the ten countries anyhow?? Do you have a reference for it?? (ie. AQIS - I cant find it??)

I've done it. However, I was there for 6 months, so I had plenty of time to get everything sorted.

It was very easy, had the paperwork all done by the taxidermist (can't remember his name). I was expecting it to be a hassle, no one so much raised an eyebrow in the NZ airport. Brought my box of skins and horns up to the counter in customs and they didn't want to look at anything. Easy as can be.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
I thought the 'depends on the country of origin' bit made that clear!!! The topic is about New Zealand trophies.

I was refering to your comment that anyone can receive untanned hides with the right paperwork. Read the permit conditions onICON if you wish to enlighten yourself.

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Originally posted by Oscar270:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
I thought the 'depends on the country of origin' bit made that clear!!! The topic is about New Zealand trophies.

I was refering to your comment that anyone can receive untanned hides with the right paperwork. Read the permit conditions onICON if you wish to enlighten yourself.

Yes well they can from New Zealand right??

Be fucked if anything comes up on that ICON database for New Zealand - what search pwords do you use??

I appreciate all of the reply's. It does sound like if I have a couple of days for the NZ taxidermist/expediter to get the cape/antlers and govt. permits prepared I can leave NZ with them. A concern is getting them through Los Angles back in the US. Sounds like I may have to use a importer on the US side. Thanks again, Randy

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Yes well they can from New Zealand right??

Be fucked if anything comes up on that ICON database for New Zealand - what search pwords do you use??

Matt, use the word "hides" in the commodity field and you will get a search result like this. \
Select the appropriate case and it will give you the conditions. It is a bit of a shit system but if you dont have any luck let me know and I will help you out.

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Originally posted by huntelkrc:
I appreciate all of the reply's. It does sound like if I have a couple of days for the NZ taxidermist/expediter to get the cape/antlers and govt. permits prepared I can leave NZ with them. A concern is getting them through Los Angles back in the US. Sounds like I may have to use a importer on the US side. Thanks again, Randy

Randy those expediters send salted capes as accompanied baggage (with the correct paperwork) into the USA all the time!!

Whats the go now with bringing a salted NZ red deer cape back to Aus? I'm heading over for the roar and cant make head nor tail out of the AQIS site?

Just wanted to share that I was successful in bringing my cape and horns back with me after my red stag hunt in NZ. I gave myself a couple of extra days after the hunt for some sight seeing which gave Geoff at Harding Expediting the required time to prepare the cape and get the Certificate of Export from the Department of Conservation.

I had also called the US Fish and Wildlife office in Los Angles and gave them I heads up that I was coming through LAX with the cape and horns (they want 48 hours notice). They didn't come to the airport but they gave the Agriculture Inspectors a call and they were expecting me. They checked my paper work, took a look at the cape, and then completed VS Form 16-78. After about 45 minutes I was on my way to catch my connecting flight.

I just had a connecting flight in Australia so I didn't have to worry about their requirements for importing.

Thanks to Matt and all the others that took the time to share their thoughts on this site.

It is possible to bring you skins and horns with you back to Australia if that where you are from. You will need an AQIS permit(approx$80) from Australia and a Vet/MAF certificate from NZ($50NZD) if you can salt dry them its best but I have brought them home frozen also boil and clean skulls and so long as on the AQIS permit you have has the name of the taxidermist here in Australia with Quaritine licence you are home and hosed with only a bit of stuffing around

Isn't life so complicated today. Back when we brought our buff horns back to NZ from Oz we just pulled them off the head after a couple of days, gave them a wash out with a bit of disinfectant, wrapped up in plastic and put in our cases. The nice young lady inspector at the airport took a look, a sniff, said they were a bit smelly and sent away for a clean up. they were carefully packaged up and returned to us by post a week later at no cost.

Similar when taking our rifles into Oz. Stop overnight at Brisbane. Airport officials asked what rifles we had, decided that a .404 sounded interesting so had it out of the case admiring it, sighting it around the baggage inspection area. Re-cased it and sent us on our way out of the Terminal. Check in next day to Darwin was no different, firearms not even queried.

Those were the days when people were respected and showed respect.

It can still work much the same nowdays Eagle - just depends on how retarded the agent is!!!

still have not got any thing worked out as far<how much its going to cost> getting horns back to the states.email alot of taxidermist and still no answers.

Did you try the email contact I gave elkhuntr above??

Huntelkrc,

If you're talking about bringing capes/horns back into Australia then you can do it. I did it (Thar cape and horns) June 2009.

Even did an Idiot sheet up for the AQIS site. I successfully applied for the paperwork through there (AQIS) site. I'll reprove my "Idiot sheet" and post it.

Paperwork must be had from the kiwi side as well.

Huntelkr,

Try this:

www.aqis.gov.au

at the AQIS Home page, double click on Importing to Australia (LHS Red column)
at page headed "IMPORTING TO AUSTRALIA" Double click on Application to Import Quarantine Materials (LHS Red column)
at the page headed APPLICATION TO IMPORT QUARANTINE MATERIAL double click on Biological Products (LHS Red column)
at the page headed BIOLOGICAL PRODUCTS double click on Biological Products Forms (LHS Red column)
at the page headed BIOLOGICAL IMPORT FORMS double click on Application to import Biological Materials (in body of text)
On a page headed "APPLICATION TO IMPORT BIOLOGICAL MATERIALS" (LHS Red column) under a heading 1. Complete and pay on line (elodge) you'll find (In red font) "Complete and submit application form on line (elodge) - application fee $75 + assessment charges" double click on it.
This will take you into the application form.

NOTE: when you fill out "common name" put in "all New Zealand feral species".

I haven't had a chance to reprove this but it worked last time.

If it doesn't work don't bother shooting the messenger as "Free advice is usually worth what you gave for it".

Huntelker,

Just had another look. Try this:


www.aqis.gov.au

at the AQIS Home page, double click on Importing to Australia (LHS Red column)
at page headed "IMPORTING TO AUSTRALIA" Double click on Application to Import Quarantine Materials (LHS Red column)
at the page headed APPLICATION TO IMPORT QUARANTINE MATERIAL double click on Biological Products (LHS Red column)
at the page headed BIOLOGICAL PRODUCTS double click on Biological Products Forms (LHS Red column)
at the page headed BIOLOGICAL IMPORT FORMS double click on Application to import Biological Materials (in body of text)
On a page headed "APPLICATION TO IMPORT BIOLOGICAL MATERIALS" (LHS Red column) under a heading 2 Complete and submit application form online you'll find (In red font) "Elodge application form and pay online" - application fee $85 + assessment charges" double click on it.
This will take you into the application form.

NOTE: when you fill out "common name" enter "all New Zealand feral species".

Good luck, Enjoy and remember what I said about shooting the messenger.

Both these guys are in the USA and elkhuntr already bought his critter home!!

TWOBOBBWANA,

As Matt shared I made it back to the US with the cape. Didn't have to worry about Australian requirements when I passed through AU since I didn't claim my baggage.

Thanks.....