Uncle Nick's article in the current SS (May) on page 50 is well worth reading.


THe real .25-06 killer we should have had.

GBB ,
Closer to the .257 Roberts than the .25/06 though .
Doesn't blow my hair back . What can it do that the .260 Remington can't ?

Shoot through a 25 barrel

Greybeard,

I stopped buying SS years ago, so I'm asking a favour... I'd take a punt that Nick's spruiking the 25/08?

Nope. The 270 WSM necked to .257 as a Wildcat.

Way back in the late 70's, uncle nick wrote an article on the .25/08 "Souper" that must have been OK because i can still remember parts of it. even the accompanying photo of a bloke leaning over the top of a Land Rover shooting. Back in the days when the Covers were color and the rest was newspaper quality.

Nick thought the "Souper" the bee's knees from memory.

Sort of interesting though that the issues reported by Uncle Nick dont seem to be reported elsewhere??
Cheers...
Con

I wasn't trying to denegrate (sic?) Nick on this one. I thought the report was a good one. He makes quite a bit of sense in it.

Never thought the .25 WSSM would take off but I could see that there may have been a chance for the WSM necked to .257. Maybe.

Its worth the read.

I've been buying the SPorting Shooter since way back in the 1960's and it has had some ups and downs, some very good contributors and some terrible ones (anyone remember Ivan S... -forget spelling- and the woefull stories he had published in the early 80's?).

Have no intention of stopping buying it while still breathing.

Actually, we got three US magazines yesterday besides Bacon Busters and SS. "Petersons Hunting", "Guns" and "Guns and Ammo". I looked through BB and SS but haven't got to the others yet.

Even though it mught not sound like it, I enjoy reading Nick's articles. Most are of a very high standard. SS does publish some articles by others (recently and not so recently) that haven't really been that flash.

I guess that applies to all magazines though. To a greater or lesser degree.

Published anywhere.

quote:

Closer to the .257 Roberts than the .25/06 though .
Doesn't blow my hair back . What can it do that the .260 Remington can't ?


[QUOTE]Shoot through a 25 barrel

i like your sense of humour Bad ass Wallace

GBB ,
Sorry , thought you were referring to the latest issue which has an article on the .25 WSSM .
The WSM version is a horse of a different colour . Potentially that could do a fair bit that the .260 won't .
Not sure what the drama is with the case design . Read that Nick had some reloading "issues" . Should be similar capacity to the .257 Weatherby I would have thought .
Apparently the 7mm SAUM case works pretty well when necked down to .25 .

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Originally posted by GreybeardBushman:
Nope. The 270 WSM necked to .257 as a Wildcat.

Thanks... like others have said, that'd be pretty close to the 257 Weatherby! It'd be an interesting thing to play with, I guess...

Not egg-zackley in the same end of the .25 spectrum but I have a Remington XP-100 14" bbl on an aluminum blocked milled and epoxied stock.

I was considering necking this to .257 and going to an 18" or longer barrel and adding a stock. I would have a center pistol grip carbine of.

Redding, if I recall, said neck forming could be done only with ring dies and expanders. Ditto for a .270 version.

My plan was to produce a small caliber cheap to shoot cartridge useable on some of the shorter range facilities in the Chicago area. Also this would be a larger caliber version of the usual .223 but on a different hull. Depends on where your fiendishments for mixing and matching cartridge components lies

I've been thinking about it a bit.

I can see that some people would find a use for a .25 calibre that shoots as flat as the Swift. Nick is right on his praise for it that way. It would be easier (not taking recoil into consideration) to get a clean kill on deer size animals way out at that 300 yard plus mark.

With the .25-06, I can get dynamite kills on roos way out there. But my preference is for the .22-250. But others may prefer the .25-06 instead. The .25-06 would definitely be better on pigs way out there. And the faster and flatter, the better the likelihood of an outright kill. So the flatter shooting (at present) wildcat .257 on the WSM case makes sense.

I just wouldn't have a use for it. Funny how the 7mm WSM shells were hard to neck down.

Nick has had a big impact on my firearms acquisition over the years. When he got his hands on the 8MM Rem Mag and took it to India and Africa, I was impressed and I bought one with the idea of taking it to the NT to shoot buffalo.

I never did but my youngest brother, when he bought his first practice up there as an accountant, did take it. He shot a few very successsfully with it.

Unfortunately, he doesn't know what gun oil is so when he came back and wanted to return the rifle, it wasn't exactly in good order. So he took it bact to the Territory. He reckons it was pure dynamite on pigs and never had trouble with the buffs he shot. He never got into reloading at all either.

When Nick wrote up the Beretta 1200 semi auto shotgun, I bought one and never regretted the decision.

Anyway, Nick's write up is good! And I have bought various guns on his write ups without disappointment.

Wandering off topic. But I think (again) that the .257 WSM may get a following. A bit like the .22/308 Middlestead I guess. There is a place for it.

"Funny how the 7mm WSM shells were hard to neck down."


Not really, The 7mm WSM has the shoulder moved forward to stop it being accidentally chambered in the 270WSM, so to make it work in his 25WSM he would have to push that shoulder back and that was what the hard part was, not the actual necking down.

GBB,
Likewise with Uncle Nick and then Craig Boddington with the 8mmRemMag. I have a 26" rebarrelled 8mmRemMag in the safe, quick count in the shed showed I've hit critical mass on projectiles. Just over 500 of various types ... time to start reloading and hunting!
The 325WSM article he wrote I felt was pure advertising though ...
Cheers...
Con

Con,

There is no way I would buy on of the WSM in .325 (8 MM).

By brother thought the 8 mm Rem Mag great and he only sold it when he shifted to Perth. Great rifle all round.

He cleaned the bore regularly but didn't take too much note of the outside. Covered with (surface) rust and the stock had gouges in it. He was quite right when he said that it couldn't be in pristine condition after out hunting in the NT.

One gun I wish I had shot a bit more before handing it over.

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Nick has had a big impact on my firearms acquisition over the years. When he got his hands on the 8MM Rem Mag and took it to India

Mate we are showing our age talking about that article(Nilgai/blue bull with 8MMRMag)shit that was forever ago but i do remember it and i still have the mag in one of my many boxes of hunt mags.

You know ... I really wish Uncle Nick would republish many of his old articles in a book like Ken Waters did. A book of collated articles on reloading and one on hunting would be a good read and historically significant to the Australian scene.
Cheers...
Con

I hord things so I have every mag i ever bought and probably a few I didn't buy. Way back into the 60'. The SS, ASJ, Outdoors. Even those few that came and went. Boxes of them but sorted by which one and by the date.

We get too many new ones to read many of them, but I occasionally pull out some from way back.

Makes good reading.

Con ,
They'd each have more pages than "War and Peace" though !

Bushchook,
Very true but you could do some editing of articles as Uncle Nick has repeated alot too. Might drop him a letter and see what the response is.

GBB,
Now I know who to hassle for old articles, would you mind photocopying some stuff for me if I gave you dates?
Cheers...
Con

No worries, Con.

quote:

Originally posted by GreybeardBushman:
I hord things so I have every mag i ever bought and probably a few I didn't buy. Way back into the 60'. The SS, ASJ, Outdoors. Even those few that came and went. Boxes of them but sorted by which one and by the date.

We get too many new ones to read many of them, but I occasionally pull out some from way back.

Makes good reading.

I have a few from the mid fifties also...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gryphon1:


I don't know, Gryp, but I doubt your time line.

I bought my first Sporting Shooter.........


Start a new thread, I think