A mate used 11-87 with slugs to shoot most of this mob,i was there to shoot any that tried to run.

Magpie 204 ruger

Few Hares

This goat was a bit close,that is a wad from the slug load.

A big slip

Are the goats and rabbits actually considered pests?
I would call that big game and small game.
Is there no limit on how many goats you can take?

cool photos t p
just how close can you get to those goats?
never shot a goat as theres none round here but i thaught it was kinda long range stuff. but that photo of the wad is a sure indicator you could probably use a sharp stick?
p.s the country looks magic. must have been a very plesent day.
all the best greg

You shot a magpie??

Dr.C the only animals in N.Z we have bag limits on is game birds.

Greg its not hard to get within shotgun range of goats with an A.T.V the dead ones in the photo were run down and cornered with the A.T.V,in no way is it hunting,we do a lot of culling on this station,which keeps the owner help so we can hunt Red deer and game birds and is good for testing reloads.

Magpies are a pest here and it is legal to kill them anytime with any weapon.

tp i do a little culling on the atv as well, it aint hunting but it sure is fun!

Guys in NZ, I am looking for a guy who does feral culls for visiting hunters. Are there any good ones about? I am a firearms instructor and hunting agent in singapore and am looking for some reliable operators to tie in with in NZ.

drop me a pm if you know of any please. many thanks in advance, TM

Excellent photos ,here in Argentina goats are a pest too we killed thousands of them in some areas ,i used fals 7.62 and one time a pa3 9mmm is a similar to the uzi for culling them .The other big pest in my area are carachos its a big eagle ,they are protected in a supid law but they are destroying everything .Juan

did you dump the stinkys some where for pig bait TP or just leave them on the ridge you took the photo on ?

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Originally posted by TOP_PREDATOR:
Magpies are a pest here and it is legal to kill them anytime with any weapon.

I'm just curious; what damage do they do to rate them as a pest?

Magpies are an introduced species , very territorial , and bad news on most of our small native birds. Could be something to do with where they come from but I wouldnt possibly want to enter further into that discussion.

They are also prone to attacking people at nesting times , and are pretty scary when they come whizzing out of nowhere and miss you by inches.... but they have no answer for a balst of 12 gauge lead.

The other really bad migrant from the west is the spur-winged plover, more territorial and bossy than the magpie. ka "puffbirds" cos thats what they do when you hit them with a 22 Swift projectile....

don't get caught shooting plovers muzza they are protected for some unknown reason

what about crows or ravens??
whats their status in NZ??

later
P

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Originally posted by Ogre6br:
what about crows or ravens??
whats their status in NZ??


P

Kill the bastards Magpies,possums,wallbies,Swans,cockatoos can all be shot,swans in season.

We just pushed goats over the bluff,we had moved them to where the photo was taken,they were all shot in a flat paddock,looked like an old airstrip.

There are not a lot of pigs on this station,one of the staff shot/caught a 130KG pig earlier in the week.

Madness - plovers are a self-introduced species so that gives them the same legal protection as any other species that has arrived under its own steam - like welcome swallows and egrets etc. Animals/birds that were deliberately introduced by man dont have that protection under law .

Plovers around here need all the protection they can get .....

Goats in New Zealand are a major pest - they eat a lot of grass and spread intestinal parasites to sheep and cattle .They are also great fence wreckers. Most farmers muster as many as they can and send them to the slaughterhouse but once goats have been chased a few times they get very wary and then killing them is the only answer.
Top Pred , likewise myself and hunting buddies , account for lots of goats in the name of pest control each year . It may not have the glamour of deer stalking or alpine hunting but it gets access to areas that you otherwise dont see , and often the same farms have deer that are accessable to you after the farmer has established that you are a reliable and safe person to have on his property .

Plus goats are a great species for new hunters to try out on , there are plenty of them and they dont require supamagnum calibres to knock over . And they are tasty as well.

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Originally posted by muzza:
They are also prone to attacking people at nesting times, ..

There is a story of a bloke in Victoroa caught shooting 2 magpies that were swooping on his elderly father. . . . fined $1200 fugging EACH!

Yup - dumb alright .

One of the fond memories I have of my 7 month stint in western Oz back in the '70's is having killed more dollars worth of Australian native species in the name of pest control than I earned as income...the fine for killing a kangaroo back then was $400 and I shot lots on crop predation work out in the wheatbelt...wonder if they will let me back now ?

My grandfather always contended when I was a real young'un that plover were as good a tucker as you could get. Better than black duck, whatever. When I finally tried them many years ago, he was dead right too. He used to reckon honeyeaters were top tucker too- you'd need a lot of them for a feed and I wouldn't do it.

Maggies apparently eat big numbers of grubs and are considered good news by the cockies around here but it is amazing the number of people who see just how far away they can hit em out in the paddocks with their varminters. I know one bloke whot hit one at 340 yards with his 204, (30 gn Berger, BM 2 powder 26.5 gn.)

But there are horror stories of being caught. The cop in Melbourne who was dobbed in by his neighbour for shooting a swooping maggie with his slug gun! Lost his shooters licence, fine, had to do a course in "anger management". What a load of crap

The local cops know people shoot the crows around here (that are actually ravens) but no one has been booked yet.

Great pics above too. That semi auto looks just like one I owned that that little JH took off me to be crushed ten odd years ago.

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Originally posted by muzza:
Madness - plovers are a self-introduced species so that gives them the same legal protection as any other species that has arrived under its own steam - like welcome swallows and egrets etc. Animals/birds that were deliberately introduced by man dont have that protection under law .

Plovers around here need all the protection they can get .....

well maybe you should ring fish and game then

as they are protected

Madness - I have noted above the legally protected staus of the plover. Plus I spent some few years as an Honourary Ranger for Fish and Game and am quite well acquanted with which species is on the gamebird list and which are not .

But thanks for pointing out the error of my ways , I shall try and behave in a more friendly manner towards plover from now on lest the Plover Protection Society adds me to their blacklist .....

I shall also try not to have one beer too many , drive too fast , eat too many Maccas burgers , use only non-lead projectiles in my reloading , drive a steam powered vehicle to save the ozone layer and vote for the Green party at the next election.

I know its quiet around here at present but getting het-up about the legal rights of a plover is hardly likely to excite the world. Not mine anyway

The dipshite that reckons "if you wear a pair of sunglasses on the back of your hat, they won't attack"
Well the first bastard maggie this morning knocked my hat off and after picked it up and stood up to put back it on the other one stuck its beak right through my scalp
Well that is another bloody myth busted!

Thats the Bengal Tiger theory mate - and it does work. You havent been attacked by a tiger whilst wearing your sunnies backwards now have you ?

i'm hardly getting "het-up" about it muzza

Carry a stick and hold it up a foot or two past the top of your head and the magpie can not get anywhere near you.

T-P,

Do the feral goats in NZ have the same habits as the Oz ones, ie if disturbed usually only vacant to the next gully or two where they can be shot again?

They should be nice and fat with all the excellent green feed, but little browse in your photos?

yes NitroX goats over here are very slow learners and are not hard to shoot at all
they will run off but like you said only to the next gullty and start feeding again

Forget the stick, take a tennis racket.

We only shoot magpies that are going to, or coming from, a depredation.

The West Nile Virus is killing a bunch of them right now, boo hoo.

LD