These deer in the photos are on a deer farm in little paddocks and you can see some are in a deer shed/barn.There are no deer shot in the wild in New Zealand of this size,the only place you shoot deer this big will be on a game park.NitroX is right,it would not be hunting to shoot any of these.I posted the photos for guys like myself that like deer. But maybe if the wild deer herds in this country were managed we would heads like these on the wild,but no the government think they are pests and must be killed on sight.
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Whilst they are farmed deer , when they have been released into a natural area - even if it is a huge paddock of thousands of acres - you still have to find them , stalk them and get close enough to harvest them . It isnt necessarily hunting in a half acre pen.
And if people are prepared to pay for that type of hunt , there is always someone prepared to arrange it. Doesnt excite me personally, but if thats your thing - so be it . And many of the professional hunting guides in New Zealand offer that type of hunt because there is a market for it .
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Originally posted by muzza: Whilst they are farmed deer , when they have been released into a natural area - even if it is a huge paddock of thousands of acres - you still have to find them , stalk them and get close enough to harvest them . It isnt necessarily hunting in a half acre pen.
Muzza how many months or years would you estimate it takes to take a semi-tame farmed stag into an aware wild stag?
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The deer are not happy about living on a farm behind wire,when they come in the shed they kick the shit out of anyone that comes near them,they bite and anyone dumb enough to get in the paddock with a stag in hard antler may well end up dead.
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Have you ever worked with deer in a deer shed???? I must not be making this clear enough these deer are on a farm not for hunting,they are breeding stags.The antlers on the wall are cast not from shot animals.If you guys have no interest in photos like this just say so and i will not post them again.
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Yes i actually have worked on red deer,and i was glad to have a drop floor crush for the up close handling,you are right about them being feisty buggers too...i watched my mate get a real good kick in the guts one morning which had me laughing until a hind decided to stand up and give me a boxing lesson Those stags are oviously not being used for velvet,you did say for breeding puposes ..the end result is for what purpose? Are the progeny for the venison trade or for stocking "game ranches"
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Originally posted by NitroX: Muzza how many months or years would you estimate it takes to take a semi-tame farmed stag into an aware wild stag?
Well, it is not immediate, but they will become more wild as time goes on.
Example: I had a Stag that I purchased from a breeder. When I got him, he was used to seeing people and vehicles. About 8 months later, he got into some wire and had it wrapped around his antlers and his neck (tight around his neck)
I feared that hew would hang the wire on something and strangle himself, or that he would choke himself when he dropped his antlers.
I tried for MONTHS to dart this guy. I never got a dart in him. Luckily, I saw him one day in the spring, missing his antlers and one ear, but still alive.
TOP_PREDATOR, keep posting pics. I love to see huge Stags.
I know people that have deer farms for meat. THey cut the horns off right away so the bucks don't damage the other deer fighting or someone in the pen with them. This is in the midwest U.S. I was told they fight like hell.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance
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