In the latest Sporting Shooter, In the "ask the gun guru" page. There is a bloke about to set off to hunt in NZ and the guide told him to bring the same bullets that he sighted in with. He asked uncle Nick if it was true that different makes of the same weight bullet will shoot differently.

Now if you are going hunting in a different country, wouldn't you think you would know the basics about your chosen hobby?

I have a feeling allot of those questions are made up by the editors or office hands to fill space, some of the questions are that ridiculous and stupid not even a half wit shooter would ask, I shake my head when the question goes like this: "I've booked a hunt overseas on big game bla bla and what is the best cal. to take" for christ sake if one has paid for that trip like that surely he's an experienced hunter, I reckon the questions are phoney...

Your on to it.
It's a silly trick that womens magazine publishers have been pulling for years.
There is equality and exchange between the sexes now, the women get mens jobs, men get their stupidity.

You have shattered my illusions! I read Aussie hunting mags and was so sure that those questions came from real Aussie hunting blokes.
Now I find they are made up as spacefillers...does that mean Aussies arent as dumb as I thought , or just the ones who work for publishers are that dumb?

To tell you the truth I really only buy the mags for the ads (to see what's in the gunshops) and good hunting stories that's it, the write ups on guns and gear is all crap.
Muzza I'm not pissing in your pocket mate but the best mags I like are the Kiwi ones some bloody good stories in them from dinky di hunters the ads piss me off though when I see semi-autos for sale bugger Howard...Les

Before Uncle Nick went "senile" or married his second wife or whatever- way back when i started reading "SS" in the late 60's, "Ask the editor" used to be quite good. I even remember writing in to ask Nick a few questions in the seventies and getting pretty good replies.

I think he invents a good deal of them now too. But I think his column also didn't have a chance once we all got access to the Net as it is now so easy and quick now to find out whatever we want.

At least for Aussies. Maybe some other people in other countries cannot access the Net as easy as us. Like over on the other side of that big ditch off our east coast.

Sorry Muzz....

Mate , dont be sorry for me - you are the one who lives in Aussie and cant have semi-autos ( or full autos for that matter ...)

The Aussie gunmags used to be ok , but all gun mags get a bit the same after you have read them for ten years . Theres only so many ways you can hunt things , the names change in the stories but the details all get real similar...

Nick Harvey passed his best before date a while ago in my humble opinion , and Col Allison wasnt far behind... Its a big wide world out there and people have better and quicker access to it now . The world has passed some of those guys by and they missed it ...( not that I am denying their acheivements back then)

I like the ads in your mags though - different stuff to what we have so it makes it interesting.

Nick has definitely passed his Use By date.

And I can honestly say I was never really impressed with Col Allison. He tended to have too high an opinion of himself for my liking.

I still get wild when I think what Howard did to our four semi autos. Watching them being crushed was pretty hard.

One day we may get them back. The cockies around here get C category without a hassle. But we don't own land. the District firearms Officer said he'd help me get a C category on the grounds of needing it for field and Game but he said the paperwork would be painful and it couldn't be used for hunting anyway.

Now, i need to inherit a few hundred acres of land--- or son marry an only child from a farming family?

Cat C is virtually toothless - allows 5 shot shotgun and 10 shot 22lr semi autos!
Cat D is the only really useful one and they are difficult for government dept to accquire here in Qld. [centrefire semi auto with large mag capacity]
Don't hold your breathe waiting to get them back.
Howard is frightened of honest citizens owning these although I managed to have several for 20+ years without breaking any laws!
Why is Bryant a "zombie" - maybe some independant authority should give him a drug test? Everyone deserves his day in court - even Bryant. There was never any court case on this before he was committed. There would be no profit to the authorities if Bryant could tell the truth.
Rant over.
APB

You guys wont get your semi-autos back. Not ever. Forget it , and get on with what you can use.

Once the politicians have passed a law its real hard to change it , and you dont have a big enough rural population to outvote the urbanites.Case closed , end of story .

Now , there is always the possibility that enterprising kiwis could offer "auto weapon shooting holidays" over here - charge you moderate fees to come and shoot our legal guns...Nothing quite like emptying the 30 rnd mag of your AK47 in sustained fire ...or even emptying the 16 round mag of a semi-ato .22...

Or you could just emigrate .....

Not a bad idea Muzza, how bout getting the ball rolling ya might have a few takers, been thinking coming over to have a go at your Sika, only thing putting me off is your terrain finding the going a bit hard these days. hhmmm a ak47 ay....nice one....

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Before Uncle Nick went "senile"

stop that, you're killin me


Yep, Category D. That's D for "Don't even bother" as it was described to me once by the local plod.

Hey Muzza, I don't think it works that way - I understand you need to hold an E cat license to shoot an E cat firearm. You can't even shoot an E cat under supervision of an E cat holder....

Bruce

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Originally posted by muzza:
...Nothing quite like emptying the 30 rnd mag of your AK47 in sustained fire ...

.... on flocks of sheep!

Cool!

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Or you could just emigrate .....

Can't do that, then who would pay the taxes that keeps the social security cheques flowing back over the Tasman?

BruceNZ mate - far be it for me to interpret a written law in a manner not necessarily the same as the intention of the law writers.....but ... I beleive that anyone can use an "E" cat firearm if under the direct supervision - ie within touching distance - of an "E" cat holder."course doing , and being seen to be doing are seldom the same .....

But then we all stick to the speed limit and always pay the right amount of tax and all those other law-abiding things too.

NitroX you know damn well that the percentage of the kiwi population in Oz living on the dole is way less than the percentage of Aussies bludging on the taxpayer , you better try another glass of vino before you try that angle again bud....but if you want to come and machine-gun some paddock maggots I imagine it could be arranged - at a price.....

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Originally posted by muzza:

NitroX you know damn well that the percentage of the kiwi population in Oz living on the dole is way less than the percentage of Aussies bludging on the taxpayer , you better try another glass of vino before you try that angle again bud....

Maybe you could have both lots. They could emigrate!

Muzza, a thought struck me to-day. It is very interesting to think of.

You said your mob moved over there about a hundred years ago? And you don't talk to your rellies here?

Hell and love me. On my mothers side, we had a relative move over there just before WW1 and I have very little info about who and from where and where they bought their farming land.

I just know they farm somewhere in NZ.

Now, the scary bit. Your aren't related to any Palmer mob from around Horsham and Stawell??????

I wait with ----- apprehension------fear---anticipation-----


We could be related

Maybe I better move over there too.

But your beer ain't as good as ours so I guess I'll stay here-----

But...........

Muzza, me long lost second cousin fourt times removed

I gave sporting Shooter amiss years ago when they had a pig story that talked of numerous hogs they got,but they used the same pig for the photos with different blokes, from different angles, to show a different background.
The latest issue has a writeup on Meopta Scopes,where they say that they are made from one piece tubes, yet in a photo it clearly shows scope objective end half tubes resting on a bench that screw into the turret section.
Not to confident with the work environment of the scope factory either. The guys is said to be coating the inside of the tubes with a substance to prevent dust ending up on the reticle.
I would imagine that should ideally be done in a controlled environment/contaminant free room.That certainly does not seem like one. The unshaven guy with the long hair looks like he just got off a forklift and is filling in for the normal someone who had to go pay his car rego, but the order had to be out that afternoon. or maybe its just multi skilling. Then again may be the lads at SS just dont have it together, and the photos are not of that scope factory at all.

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Originally posted by Woodjack:

The guys is said to be coating the inside of the tubes with a substance to prevent dust ending up on the reticle.

Vasoline used in the space shuttle.

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Originally posted by GreybeardBushman:
But your beer ain't as good as ours so I guess I'll stay here-----

Mmmmmmm, Steinlager gives most of our premium beers a run for the money.

FOR

1. Less restrictive gun laws
2. good beer
3. Plenty of game
4. bueatiful scenery...

AGAINST.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6,
7.

???? There is a bit of scope here for a few Antis, I guess.

GBBM-

whilst you are certainly ugly enough to be a relation of mine , I have to disappoint you - no , we arent relatives. For a start I am human - and you are australian...

There are points for and against living here or there , but at the end of the day where you live is only as good as what you make of it . NZ and Oz are close enough that we can hunt in another country without too much difficulty , so maybe we should just have overseas hunting holidays but stay living were we are ???

I intend to take up the invitation I was given by me new mate here to go to NZ hunting.

ANZAC (I know, said before) still means were are very nearly the same country (howls in the background?). I still remember my grandfather and his brothers stories of Gallipoli (before it became a tourist resort). I still know that we are both really "down-unders". My grandfather really thought NZ was really just another state of Aus (no bull) , or rather, of the same part of the English empire.


My father and his brothers regarded the Kiwis as totally equally in WW 2.

My grandfather's Galipolli's diary makes me very very bad. Enough of the down stuff.

You are way too ugly to be my relative but my son and daughter are both good looking so I must have thought (in a period of insanity) that a good gene passed over the big ditch.

Happy thoughts.

BTW, have you blokes still got an army?

Or did that woman sell all of that off with the Air Force (um, three jets is an air force? maybe)


too much beer again!

"You are way too ugly to be my relative but my son and daughter are both good looking so I must have thought (in a period of insanity) that a good gene passed over the big ditch."


Beauty must be like brains - my kid gets his brains from his mother cos I still have all of mine...

yes we still have an army , not much of one but sufficient for our needs given that we have no "real" enemies... Some of our Special Forces guys are deployed in Afghanistan at present , but not in Iraq. We tend to have support people like medical teams in disaster areas , and most of the actual fighting capacity gets used in disaster releif work as well . we dont have anyone to fight remember .

We used to have an airforce till comrade Helen and her lesbian buddies gutted that ....now our pilots fly for you guys or the brits...

Even though you are an ugly old git you should come over here hunting , it would be a new experience for you and we like to have foreigners here from time to time as well , gives our search and rescue people something to do....

Should I bring Drew (son) or just myself?

I carn't read timetables without at least three other Aussies to help.

Anyway, mate, I hope to get over there within the next couple of years, depending on money.

My better half wants to do a tour from one end to the other, I think. She has kind of gone hunting after that big 50 bench mark in one's life.

Good hunting.

Theres safety in numbers mate - bring your whole town.

depends on what you want to hunt and where as to how many of you need to come . Its not as if hunting is hard to find over here - as long as you have a local contact . Bit difficult if you are on your own in a foreign land.