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Originally posted by muzza:
people die in their beds all the time .

Anyone who voluntarily sets foot on an obviously active volcano accepts the risk that it could blow up at any time . Adventure tourism sometimes has more adventure than people would prefer.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Yep. I feel sad for the people who died or are injured. But I also feel we need some kind of risk and adventure in our societies. I personally dont want a bubble wrapped world and will also be sad if they stop people visiting White Island permanently.
Im also a fan of letting kids climb trees. Because if they survive the fall, which 99.9999% of the time they do, they learn something from it about risk and assessment.
My partners daughter has just started wanting to drive the tractor and it scares the shit out of me every time I hop out and let her do a job by herself. But you have to let people learn and do things and make mistakes. Even if she did hit the side of the woolshed yesterday....

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?

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Originally posted by eagle27:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?

Because they were visiting an active volcano which just happen to blow off a short term vent of scalding steam, gas and ash. Most were dressed in summer shorts and tops so were virtually cooked alive.
A short boat or chopper trip and easy short track walk on moon like terrain from the boat jetty, chopper pad to the steaming crater. Quite spectacular and a safe enough lifetime experience for most. But just like the chopper trips and landings that hundreds of thousands of tourists a year make on our famous glaciers in South Westland, my old hunting area, or high speed jet boat trips up some of our spectacular cliff sided rivers, it can all go horribly wrong sometimes.

You don't want adventure, you don't want that exhilarating tingle of fear, you don't want that awe inspiring sense of being out in untouched raw nature, then stay at home and watch it all on television.

Of course I am deeply saddened for the victims and families they have left behind and for those that survive, and those faced with the gruelling path back to some form of life, as painful and hideous it may be, considering the unique injuries sustained in a volcanic blast, but please don't change and wrap the world in cotton wool.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by eagle27:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?

Because they were visiting an active volcano which just happen to blow off a short term vent of scalding steam, gas and ash. Most were dressed in summer shorts and tops so were virtually cooked alive.
A short boat or chopper trip and easy short track walk on moon like terrain from the boat jetty, chopper pad to the steaming crater. Quite spectacular and a safe enough lifetime experience for most. But just like the chopper trips and landings that hundreds of thousands of tourists a year make on our famous glaciers in South Westland, my old hunting area, or high speed jet boat trips up some of our spectacular cliff sided rivers, it can all go horribly wrong sometimes.

You don't want adventure, you don't want that exhilarating tingle of fear, you don't want that awe inspiring sense of being out in untouched raw nature, then stay at home and watch it all on television.

Of course I am deeply saddened for the victims and families they have left behind and for those that survive, and those faced with the gruelling path back to some form of life, as painful and hideous it may be, considering the unique injuries sustained in a volcanic blast, but please don't change and wrap the world in cotton wool.

Betting nobody made them aware of the danger, in spite of knowledge an eruption was possible.
Grizz

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Originally posted by eagle27:

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by eagle27:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?

Because they were visiting an active volcano which just happen to blow off a short term vent of scalding steam, gas and ash. Most were dressed in summer shorts and tops so were virtually cooked alive.
A short boat or chopper trip and easy short track walk on moon like terrain from the boat jetty, chopper pad to the steaming crater. Quite spectacular and a safe enough lifetime experience for most. But just like the chopper trips and landings that hundreds of thousands of tourists a year make on our famous glaciers in South Westland, my old hunting area, or high speed jet boat trips up some of our spectacular cliff sided rivers, it can all go horribly wrong sometimes.

You don't want adventure, you don't want that exhilarating tingle of fear, you don't want that awe inspiring sense of being out in untouched raw nature, then stay at home and watch it all on television.

Of course I am deeply saddened for the victims and families they have left behind and for those that survive, and those faced with the gruelling path back to some form of life, as painful and hideous it may be, considering the unique injuries sustained in a volcanic blast, but please don't change and wrap the world in cotton wool.

Betting nobody made them aware of the danger, in spite of knowledge an eruption was possible.
Grizz

Active volcano, danger of eruption, who would've thought Your're telling me adults and teenagers don't know the dangers of volcano's. Along with the moon and sun, volcano's are probably one of the earliest things kids learn about and what kids don't watch endless hours of TV and internet nowdays exposed to everything that ever goes on in our world.

Oh by the way tourists, active volcanoes can be dangerous, we have been taking guided tours for decades and never had a problem. Do you still want to go? How many "shit no count me outs" would you expect to get?

We have a few chopper crashes every year and likewise the odd jet boat ride goes wrong too. Anybody doesn't want to come???

Get real Grizz, people line up despite the danger, in fact the danger and risk are what many line up for. Like I keep saying, you don't want risk and danger in your life, stay home in front of the TV.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Exactly how.did the victims die in this situation?