THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM DOWN UNDER FORUM


Moderators: Bakes
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
I'm a goin' down under!
 Login/Join
 
One of Us
posted
Hi guys, I am in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Canada but I will be going to Griffith NSW Australia this Dec. 28th. My wife is on a teacher exchange and my son (18yrs.) and I are going along. Ben and I will be looking for work in the area and I sure want to do some hunting and fishing while we are there.

How do I go about getting a "gun permit" and hunting licence in Aus.? I worked for Fish & Wildlife here in Alberta and took their firearms training. I also took the "canadian firearms safety course" and have my "Posession and Acquisition Licence" for owning and buying guns in Canada.

Anyone from close to Griffith that can help me out?

Have a good one!

Robin
 
Posts: 265 | Location: Rocky Mtn. Hse., Alberta | Registered: 09 September 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of T3Shooter
posted Hide Post
From the Queensland Police website:
quote:

Visitors Licenses - International Visitors

International visitors wanting to use weapons in Australia so they can participate in competitive sports shooting events, hunting tours or other activities require special permits from Australian Police before arrival. If applying for this type of licence, you must be entitled by law to possess and use a weapon or type of weapon in the state or country where you normally reside. The following information will help you through the process.
What do I have to do

If you want to use firearms during your stay in Australia, you need to apply for two permits:

* An import permit ( to allow you to bring firearms into the country); and
* An international visitor weapons/firearms permit/licence (to allow you to possess, carry and use weapons/firearms during your stay).

To begin the process, apply to the police of the first Australian State or Territory you will be entering for both permits. For example, if you plan to enter Australia first through Victoria (even though you may go afterwards to other Australian States or Territories), then apply to Victoria Police for both permits.

Application forms for both permits can be obtained from the police of every Australian State or Territory. Australian Firearms Licence Authorities / Registries Contact List

If you are a member of a sports shooting or hunting club in your home country, you may also be able to get copies of the application forms directly from your club. Check with your club.

Make sure you fill out the application form completely and accurately. This will ensure your application is processed quickly by Australian police, and will help avoid delays.
When do I apply

Apply well in advance of your visit, at least a month before your arrival. This will ensure that Australian police will have time to check your application and to send you your permits. This is important, as you will need to have both permits with you on the day you arrive in Australia.
What will I be allowed to do

When you receive your permits, you will be allowed to import your firearm into Australia and to possess, carry and use your firearm during your stay.

Strict conditions will apply. For example:

* You will only be allowed to use weapons/firearms for specific purposes (for competitive sports shooting events; for hunting' or other specified purposes);
* You will need to comply with all the other requirements in the firearms laws of the Australian State or Territory you are visiting;
* You will need to observe specific storage requirements;
* You will need to carry the permit at all times and show it to Australian police on request; and
* You will need to ensure that you take your weapon/firearm with you out of Australia when you leave.

Note that no permit will be issued for a period longer than 3 months.
Moving between different Australian States and Territories

If you plan to move between different Australian States and Territories during your stay and your permit is for competitive sports shooting, then you will be allowed to use your weapon/firearm in the different States and Territories with the one set of permits you receive from the first State or Territory you enter.

If you plan to move between different Australian States and Territories and have a permit for other reasons (for example hunting), then you may need to get separate permits from each State and Territory regarding the requirements applying there.
What types of firearms are allowed?

Whilst most common types of firearms can be brought into Australia under a permit, international visitors should note that permits will not generally be issued for the following types of firearms:

* Semi-automatic centrefire rifles;
* High capacity semi-automatic rimfire rifles or shotguns;
* High capacity pump-action shotguns; or
* Fully automatic firearms


Ladies and gentlemen, when I was a young boy I dreamed of being a baseball. But we have to go forward, not backwards, upwards, not forwards, and always twirling, twirling, twirling, towards freedom!
 
Posts: 80 | Registered: 13 August 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of NitroX
posted Hide Post
Robin

How long will the exchange be for?

You will need to consult the NSW laws as Griffith is in NSW and states have some differences.


__________________________

John H.

..
NitroExpress.com - the net's double rifle forum
 
Posts: 10138 | Location: Wine Country, Barossa Valley, Australia | Registered: 06 March 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Robin,
As Nitro says, NSW has different laws to Queensland, so T3Shooter's post is likely to be inaccurate in detail.

NSW only allows the issue of 'Temporary Visitors Permits'for firearms to international vistors, in very limited circumstances.

These are basically for specific competitions, safari tours [with a specific licensed operator], and organised hunts [with an approved hunting club]. These permits are the only ones that can be issued before you arrive in the country, and they are good for no more than 3 months, and cost $75.

The other path, for a longer stay, is to plan to apply for a NSW firearm licence. Will cost $100 for a 2-year one, and you must complete a local
safety course before you can apply for one. Dunno about the course cost. Here's a
rundown on the basics of licensing. Note that there are built-in delays in this process - 28 days from licence OK to issue,and also from application to issue of acquisition permits [$10 a time]. Not sure if you can apply for your P to A's at the same time as the licence, to make the waiting periods concurrent, or not.

The NSW Police site has more detailed information. You will need to contact them in any case, as they authorise the import permit required. Customs fact sheets are here , about half way down the page.

For general NSW shooting info, the
SSAA State Branch page is a good place to start. There's a link to a list of their ranges there, but it requires a plugin I don't have.

There is at least one each of active clay target, rifle and pistol clubs in Griffith.

BTW, if bringing firearms with you, even with the import OK'd, you would need to make arrangements to have them held by a licensed dealer, until the licensing [including safe storage facilities] is sorted out.

The NSW hunting licence situation is undergoing changes at the moment. Best to see what it's like when you get here.

However, one quirk is that duck hunting is not permitted as such, in NSW. But Griffith is in a major rice-growing area, so from around September-November, there is plenty of 'pest destruction' duck shooting available, on private land.

Oh, on permissible longarm action types: forget all semiautos, and pump shotguns. And anything with a folding or quick detachable stock.


Cheers,
Doug
 
Posts: 337 | Location: Gippsland, Victoria, Australia | Registered: 02 May 2004Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Bad Ass Wallace
posted Hide Post
Oh! and that situation may change because NSW is currently doing it's 5 year review!

Welcome to our un-informed. I mean uniform National Gun laws! bawling


Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer!
If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead!

 
Posts: 1785 | Location: Kingaroy, Australia | Registered: 29 April 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of T3Shooter
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Gadge:
Robin,
As Nitro says, NSW has different laws to Queensland, so T3Shooter's post is likely to be inaccurate in detail...

Not that I care, but how is the info from Qld police site inaccurate or any different to what you have posted?


Ladies and gentlemen, when I was a young boy I dreamed of being a baseball. But we have to go forward, not backwards, upwards, not forwards, and always twirling, twirling, twirling, towards freedom!
 
Posts: 80 | Registered: 13 August 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of NitroX
posted Hide Post
T3Shooter

No one is pointing fingers. I'm not an expert, who is?

I believe NSW does not have an international visitors permit for hunting purposes. They have one I believe for target shooting. For hunting purposes they have a temporary visitors licence for people hunting with safari operators.

quote:
How to Apply for a Firearms Permit - NSW

Application Forms

Permit application forms are available by phoning the Firearms Registry Customer Service Line on 1300 362 562.

Supplementary Instructions are available for the following types of permits:

....
Overseas Visitors Permit - Safari Tour Hunting Activities
Overseas Visitors Permit - Target Shooting Competitions


A key point that needs to be answered is how long the visit is for. USUALLY it is easier to get a temporary licence for 3 months or so, but if say some one is staying for 12 months, a normal licence is required. I am guessing that if a normal permit is required all the usual application requirements will be needed until the licence is received and only then the firearms be imported. A firearms dealer may be able to store the firearms for the person in the meantime.

The best ADVICE is for the prospective visitor to email, fax and phone the relevant police licensing body well ahead of time and get the "facts" from the police as they will be the one issuing the licence.

For a short-term visitor, a safari client, a good outfitter will do a lot to help with the licencing so it is straight forward. Many states also are easier than NSW but there are NOT uniform firearm laws in Australia and that is GOOD as we would probably end up with the worst examples of each.

New South Wales Firearms Registry
Locked Bag 1
MURWILLUMBAH NSW 2482
Phone: 0011 61 2 6670 8522
Fax: 0011 61 2 6670 8558

See also this thread I put together on firearm's laws for visitors to Aust. I tried to research each state (on the net only).

Some info on licensing in Australia - by state - for visitors


__________________________

John H.

..
NitroExpress.com - the net's double rifle forum
 
Posts: 10138 | Location: Wine Country, Barossa Valley, Australia | Registered: 06 March 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
We leave here for Aus. Dec. 28/05 and will be there for a school year and coming home in Dec. of 06 sometime.

I will be missing a hunting season here in Alberta and so I must do some hunting in Australia.

Robin
 
Posts: 265 | Location: Rocky Mtn. Hse., Alberta | Registered: 09 September 2005Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 


Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia