Howdy,

Still settling in and about to throw down some cash for my first Australian rifle.

I noticed that specifically triggers, magazines, barrels and receivers are "gun parts" and controlled.

I can't find anything that says I can't buy a rifle stock, projectiles, or brass cases and have it shipped in.

Does anyone know of a Aussie Govt website that would direct me in that direction? Either way.

Yup. Oz Customs factsheets are at: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4369.asp#e1057

Brass, projectiles and barrels/receivers are much more troublesome/costly [US State Dept export license required for all shipments] to get out of the US, than into Aust. NB: these items, and trigger assemblies, require an Oz B709A import permit, which is free of charge from the ACT Registry. Stocks seem to be OK, if under US$100 merchandise cost per order.

I am guessing the $100 per order is to ensure they get their share of tax.

Governments are getting dumber and dumber all the time.

Thanks, I'll apply for the import form from the Aussie Police and have them ship that stuff to the house.

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Originally posted by D99:
I am guessing the $100 per order is to ensure they get their share of tax.

It's a US thing; they have a much broader definition of 'gun parts' than Oz Customs. Stocks seem to be included, these days.

There's an exemption from the US export license requirement for 'gun parts' shipments [other than 'specified gun parts' such as barrels, actions etc.] below that value. The exporter still has to be registered as such, though, as does the item manufacturer. Export license fees took a big jump in late 2008, when the US State Dept. went to a 'full cost recovery' business model. They then also became much stricter about exporter/manufacturer registrations, which cost US$2250+ yearly, to maintain their budgets.

You'll find that even firms like Numrich Gun Parts Corp. aren't interested in any export orders that require an export license.
And there are parts that Brownell's won't accept export orders for, as the manufacturer isn't registered for export.

Thanks to the US export system, it's often better to order from Canada.

BTW, if you're looking at putting together a switch barrel rifle based on a Savage/Stevens action, http://www.shooters.com.au/ are the Midway agents in the ACT, and can get A&B and Shilen prefit barrels quickly, at as good prices as you'll find here. They'll do the B&C stocks too.

You've likely seen the discussions on ordering Boyd's stocks over at AHN; they're a very good option. Everyone seems impressed with their products and service.

What state are you in D99?

In 2009 I sent an 8mm barrel to Bakes. I didn't do anything on this end except pack it in bubble wrap and send it. I believe Tony had to get a customs permit on his end. I thought it was expensive to sent the barrel to Australia at a little over $40.00.

Ron, you were seriously lucky US Customs didn't pick that up. They'd have confiscated it, if they had.

And it could have become truly nasty for you, if the US State Dept had then chosen to take it up. Though they seem to target commercial scale illicit exports, not surprisingly.

This all comes under ITAR, the US arms trade restrictions regulations. Some very stiff penalties there. http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/re...ar_consolidated.html

BTW, it could have caused problems for Bakes, had he resided in NSW or ACT here. Illegal for a private individual to receive a firearm barrel via post, in both.

It is just easier to not deal with the drama of getting caught and losing my job, and getting exported back to the USA.

That and Mitchell is 5 KM away where Shooters Wholesale is

Gadge:
I think you're wrong mate.
I've shipped several stocks and some barrels to oz from the US. W/o any problems. Just need to have the import permit on that end to show it's legal to receive things and intemize everything on the US export permit.
Same goes with brass, bullets and dies, other items. I think as long as a person don't over do the qty to draw attention he's in business is the main thing.
George

And that 8mm barrel is finally getting put on its action as we speak

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Originally posted by georgeld:
Gadge:
I think you're wrong mate.
I've shipped several stocks and some barrels to oz from the US. W/o any problems. Just need to have the import permit on that end to show it's legal to receive things and intemize everything on the US export permit.
Same goes with brass, bullets and dies, other items. I think as long as a person don't over do the qty to draw attention he's in business is the main thing.
George

Mate,
I sincerely wish I was.

But we over here, have been dealing with the gradual creep of US export restrictions, for the last 10 years or so. I look at the export rules in my oldest [97-98] Brownells catalogue, and think "dang, it was so easy then". Compared to now.

We're in the situation that even the small time US dealers, who would previously send us brass and projectiles, have been caught up with by the US State Dept. And have had the ITAR breach penalties pointed out to them [both civil and criminal, so Fed jail time + US$1mill+ fines]. Easily enough to put them out of business.

Just because you've got away with it a few times, doesn't mean it was fully legal. US Customs can't check everything that's shipped overseas. Particularly from private shippers. They certainly check the commercial shipments.

Found out a couple of months ago that we can't ship within Australia unprimed brass since 01/01/2010 because our socialist masters have signed a UN agreement prohibiting same.
I plead with all Australain firearms owners to contact their state and federal police ministers every time there is a proposed new limit.
APATHY will finish our sport without doubt.
Currently we face the fiercest attack since Howard [1996 Prime Minister].
Customs are currently reviewing regulations [imports] and SA WLB want to move ALL lever and pump actions to Cat C.If this runs then all other states will follow and how long before they decide to make all BOLT action Cat C???
Wake up guys - this is happening NOW - writing a letter to your local Minister does work!
We have put off the current Qld draft act with only 1200 objections!
This is the worst attack on firearms ownership ever and is being driven by PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!

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Originally posted by Aussie Powder Burner:
Found out a couple of months ago that we can't ship within Australia unprimed brass since 01/01/2010 because our socialist masters have signed a UN agreement prohibiting same.

Australian gunshops have been shipping unprimed brass all year in 2010 and continue to do so. What have you experienced that's different? My local Post Master has never baulked at accepting or receiving unprimed brass and we discuss these issues regularly. He even holds up the bags and jingles them for me.

If your talking about importing brass from OS ... that's a different kettle of fish but the sticking point is OS not Australia. I've been looking more and more towards shopping from Europe as a result ... but they're not geared up like the larger US suppliers are.
Cheers...
Con

Well Customs are aware of the UN legislation if Australia Post isn't.
i imported some knynoch brass and ACS informed me they couldn't post them to me once they cleared them on my B709A due to this legislation.
PM me and I can forward the attachment.
It has happened without any input from us as usual.

More reasons I choose to reside elsewhere these days.

What escapes the average US citizen is that export controls on guns are still gun controls in general and thus victories for their anti's.

Antis make a lot of easy ground there because who even checks what guns can't be shipped out from their own country? (unless you are doing business or international hunts) .
Before anyone realises it an export control becomes an import control...

quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Powder Burner:
i imported some knynoch brass and ACS informed me they couldn't post them to me once they cleared them on my B709A due to this legislation.

I think you got an antigun officer in ACS, I've brought in quite a bit of brass, the latest lot was three weeks ago, and I've never had a problem.

I have, quite a hell of a problem once actually.


Also any requirement to jump through extra bullshit hoops for inert objects is a fucking problem to me.

Whether its component, stocks, barrels whatever, the key problem here is the average Aussie happily giving up ground on each issue, making it normal in his mind, and repeating like a zombie as per the anti's latest victory on any legislation or added paper control " Gee I don't have a problem with that''.

Technically I could still own an SKK and ''not have a problem with it''

Obviously we would much rather the peice of legislation did not fucking exist though.

Johnfox
You may be correct although he was helpful otherwise.
What is always happening is that different offices [states] have differing interpretations of the regulations. Throw into the mix Australia Post as well and it gets more confusing. Remember several years ago we had a ban by Australia Post on all firearm parts because of anti gun hierachy and interpretation.
Brisbane has often led the way with tightening things up as they were the first to apply the banning of 10 shot 7600 mags for example.